Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yoko Hirose

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The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 01:25, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yoko Hirose[edit]

Not notable does not meet WP:N, WP:BIO, or WP:PROF. Pocopocopocopoco (talk) 04:57, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. —Jmundo (talk) 05:31, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. —Fg2 (talk) 02:13, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Meets WP:BIO criteria, received a notable honor - the Akino Memorial Research Project on Central Asia from the UN University in Japan (The Armenia-Azerbaijan Conflict over Karabakh, p. 11). Japanese sites which mention: TUFS, here and here, Digitalasia.sfc.keio.ac.jp, Src-home.slav.hokudai.ac.jp. --Brand спойт 12:05, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Relatively junior academic, associate professor. No indication that the award received is notable. The links given by Brandmeister show that she has been a speaker at a symposium, is a member of "Digital Asia Regional Reserch (sic) Center", and has presented a seminar at the Slavic Research Center of Hokkaido University. The references in the article show that she has published. All of these activities are normal for any academic, nothing shows that she's above the average. Perhaps she will become notable in a few years, but WP is not a crystal ball. --Crusio (talk) 12:44, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
'Keep'. Akino memorial fellowship, given by notable university, appears to be award as substantial as those conferring Wikipedia notability in other fields. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 17:03, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, per Crusio. The grant from the UN University in Japan appears to be basically a regular research grant, not of the kind that would satisfy criterion 2 of WP:PROF. There is relatively little in the record to indicate passing any of the other criteria of WP:PROF (as Crusio notes, publishing papers and speaking at conferences are regular academic activities, done even by the most junior academics). It may be that we are missing some sources in Japanese that cover her work but somebody would still have to find and identify them. Nsk92 (talk) 20:45, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The person may satisfy only one criterion as per WP:PROF#Criteria. She actually meets criteria 2 (the person has received... an honor at a national or international level) and 6 (the person has held a major... appointed academic post at an academic institution). She is also published in non-Japanese sources. --Brand спойт 09:41, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think you are mistaken and you quote the criteria incompletely. Criteria 2 actually says something about "a highly prestigious academic award or honor". Nothing indicates that the UN grant is highly prestigious. Grants are actually not ordinarily cnsidered to be honors or awards. Criteria 6 says "a major highest-level elected or appointed academic post". Again, you omit the words "highest level". Associate professor definitely is not highest level and not even full professor makes one auto;atically notable. That she's published in non-Japanese sources is immaterial, all academics publish. --Crusio (talk) 10:56, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, if so, I consider to look through 8 (WP:PROF#Notes and Examples): Some lesser significant academic honors and awards that confer a high level of academic prestige also can be used to satisfy Criterion 2. Examples may include certain awards, honors and prizes of notable academic societies, of notable foundations and trusts. The link to Akino Fellowship has been fixed. --Brand спойт 13:29, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think the operative terms here are "significant" and "high level". This link and this one show that the award is given only to undergraduate and graduate students and to postdocs. That doesn't sound like a significant high level academic award to me. --Crusio (talk) 14:04, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Could not find enough to establish notability under WP:PROF. Does not seem to pass WP:BIO either. Could become notable in the future, but not there yet. The author apparently publishes primarily in English. Yet there are few entries and holdings based on WorldCat, and very few citations. As noted by Crusio, the grant is not enough to meet WP:PROF criterion #2 (highly prestigious academic award or honor at a national or international level). Similarly, the fellowship is not a the level required to meet WP:PROF criterion #3 (elected member of a highly selective and prestigious scholarly society or association; fellow of a major scholarly society for which that is a highly selective honor).--Eric Yurken (talk) 17:39, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete A fellowship from an individual university is almost never sufficient--I don;t want to say never, because "fellowship" has many meanings, and some of them might be sufficient for notability. But in such cases there would always be other things also. Here there are not. A few minor publication only. DGG (talk) 00:17, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per google scholar search by author. Hirose's work is repeatedly cited going back several years. Tgreach (talk) 00:32, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Those are different Yoko Hirose's (I guess its a popular name in Japan). The one for this AFD is an associate professor in Central Asian studies. Pocopocopocopoco (talk) 00:43, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  - And even if they were the same person, the highest number of citations is 14, which is far from being notable. --Crusio (talk) 07:14, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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