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The result was keep. Yunshui  07:08, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yoho Town[edit]

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nothing besides iinfo, fails NBUILD and GNG viz 05:34, 25 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Hong Kong-related deletion discussions. viz 05:34, 25 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Shopping malls-related deletion discussions. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 09:40, 25 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
    1. Huang, Shu-Mei (2015). Urbanizing Carescapes of Hong Kong: Two Systems, One City. Lanham, Maryland: Lexington Books. ISBN 978-07391-8726-5. Retrieved 2019-07-28.
    2. 脫苦海 (2013-01-19). "嚴選私樓王──元朗。新時代廣場 (Yoho Town)". Yahoo! Finance (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2019-07-28. Retrieved 2019-07-28.
    3. 曾淵滄 (2015). 富足自由人3 ──買樓收租10P之道 (in Chinese). Hong Kong: 天窗出版. pp. 58–59, 159. ISBN 9888292943. Retrieved 2019-07-28.
    4. "每呎 $1560 元朗區最平: YOHO入場費74萬". Apple Daily (in Chinese). 2003-07-03. Archived from the original on 2018-06-15. Retrieved 2019-07-28.
    Sources with quotes
    1. Huang, Shu-Mei (2015). Urbanizing Carescapes of Hong Kong: Two Systems, One City. Lanham, Maryland: Lexington Books. ISBN 978-07391-8726-5. Retrieved 2019-07-28.

      The book notes:

      The housing estate, YOHO TOWN, is a typical private development resulting from the widely-applied Transit-Oriented Development (TOD) model, considered an ideal strategy to decentralize Hong Kong's crowded population to new towns along the expanding massive transportation network in New Territories.

      YOHO TOWN is modeled after Tokyo Midtown in Japan, and eventually will contain about 6,000 residential units in 33-50 story towers in three phases. Each phase contains one shopping center and about 2,000 flats, most of which are two-bedroom units that are favorable to the middle-class families and presumably cross-border investors. It is worth noting that the size of two-bedroom flats in Hong Kong is barely half of their North American counterpart across the Pacific. "Bedroom," as one Filipino engineer working as an expat in the city mocked, is at best "a room for a bed." The prototypical compact flat requires inhabitants to adjust their conceptualization of home space because one will find it challenging to put a stjdy desk in her own flat. Instead, the estate has a private "club house" where the residents can access a variety of educational and recreational facilities, including a common study room, a gymnasium, a swimming pool, a play room for children, piano practice rooms, Wi-Fi and so on—basically a thorough externalization of domestic functions to make up the insufficient space of individual flats but without the feminist spirit of socializing care appearing in the US during the 1890–1920s (Hayden, 1982). There are at least 50-80 janitors and servic workers at each private estate to maintain its operation. The ownership-residents pay a monthly management fee of $232.2, which includes the clubhouse membership and other services such as security, cleaning, mail, and so on. The fee varies depends upno the size and age of the building and usually can be equivalent to the rent of a subdivided room in Sham Shui Po.

    2. 脫苦海 (2013-01-19). "嚴選私樓王──元朗。新時代廣場 (Yoho Town)". Yahoo! Finance (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2019-07-28. Retrieved 2019-07-28.

      The article notes:

      新時代廣場的名字比較令人陌生,英文名可能更多人知:Yoho Town,主題是Young Town,意即年輕的城市。與新地其他的輕鐵總站項目「新元朗中心」和「新屯門中心」不同,屋苑更近似於沙田「新城市廣場」,以整體概念興建的大型綜合性發展項目。

      新時代廣場共分三期發展,第一期Yoho Town和第二期Yoho Midtown已完成,現正興建第三期Yoho Mega Town。其中第一期是純住宅,以二房及三房單位為主;第二期有基座商場,開則變化較大,由一房到四房都有,而且有更多大單位可供選擇。開則是以日字廳及左右廳為主,第二期有部份大單位以曲尺廳開則,均是方正易擺位。

      屋苑規模大,所以各自設有會所,而部份細單位只有環保露台,沒有工作平台,所以更見實用,可惜整體實用率只有77%,得1.5分。

      From Google Translate:

      The name of New Times Square is relatively strange, and the English name may be more known: Yoho Town, the theme is Young Town, which means young city. Unlike the other new LRT Terminus projects, the "New Yuen Long Centre" and the "New Tuen Mun Centre", the estate is similar to the "New Town Plaza" in Sha Tin. It is a large-scale integrated development project with a holistic concept.

      New Times Square has been developed in three phases. The first phase of Yoho Town and the second phase of Yoho Midtown have been completed and the third phase of Yoho Mega Town is being built. The first phase is pure residential, mainly two-bedroom and three-bedroom units; the second phase has a pedestal shopping mall, which has a large change from one to four rooms, and there are more large units to choose from. The opening is based on the Japanese character hall and the left and right halls. In the second phase, some large units are opened in the curved room, and they are all placed in the square.

      The housing estates are large in size, so each has its own clubhouse. Some of the fine units have only an environmentally-friendly terrace and no working platform. Therefore, it is more practical. Unfortunately, the overall utility rate is only 77%, which is 1.5 points.

    3. 曾淵滄 (2015). 富足自由人3 ──買樓收租10P之道 (in Chinese). Hong Kong: 天窗出版. pp. 58–59, 159. ISBN 9888292943. Retrieved 2019-07-28.

      The book notes on page 59:

      我舉個例子,新鴻基地發展的 YOHO Town 開售時,它賣得比同區貴一點,但我還是覺得盒宜的,因為新地將整個 YOHO Town 所在的區域,都發展成一般,交通 、飲食配套俱備 、把整個社區質素提升了,樓盤較同區有溢價,但也是值得的。

      The book notes on page 159:

      讓我舉一個正面的例子,你便更加明白我在說甚麼。新鴻基地產在元朗發展的 YOHO Town 及 YOHO Midtown 就是正面的例子。新地元朗那遍地後,便積極開發,落力將全區改造成與之前不同的社 YOHO Town 及 YOHO Midtown 當年賣七千元多元一呎,明顯定同區其他樓盤高,但這兩個樓盤高,享有較同區高的溢價是應該的,個項目將個社區改變,把整個地方升級,定價取沒有不可。

    4. "每呎 $1560 元朗區最平: YOHO入場費74萬". Apple Daily (in Chinese). 2003-07-03. Archived from the original on 2018-06-15. Retrieved 2019-07-28.

      The article notes:

      【本報訊】新鴻基地產(016)今年首個大型重頭項目,兼今年度主要賣樓收入來源的元朗 YOHO Town,昨日公布以即供平均呎價1560元,推出首批16個公開發售單位,呎價貼近同區二手市場,但最平宜的單位僅73.73萬元,屬全區最平的新盤單位。業內人士指出,此類細價盤容易上車,料可重現馬灣珀麗灣的盛況。 YOHO Town是新地繼去年珀麗灣後最大規模的一個新盤。

      元朗 YOHO Town首批16單位,位於第2座2及3樓,呎價最平1399元,其中2伙售價不足80萬元,低於100萬元的則佔12伙。地產代理指出,區內二手樓如新元朗中心、朗晴居的低層單位呎價約1600元,樓齡較新的采葉庭呎價約1700元,故 YOHO Town的開售價較貼近市場。售價在120萬元以下的上車盤,為近期最熱賣的單位;120萬以上的承接力會受到考驗。

    There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Yoho Town to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".

    Cunard (talk) 10:27, 28 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep per Cunard. Actually the photo showing a massive, multi-tower development, bigger in population than most of the towns/villages/communities covered in Wikipedia, suffices for me. Anything this sizeable is also a Geographic feature, changing the earth's gravitational field and all that. ---Doncram (talk) 08:59, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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