Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yekutiel Ravayev

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect‎ to Yekutiel Adam provisionally, though of course further discussion may take place regarding the best redirect target. However, there is a consensus that this topic is not sufficiently notable to warrant a standalone article. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 07:31, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yekutiel Ravayev[edit]

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Fails WP:BIO. Israeli martyr. He has a memorial on an Israeli Ministry of Defence website, presumably because of his relationship to Yekutiel Adam. Schierbecker (talk) 20:06, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Israel-related deletion discussions. Schierbecker (talk) 20:06, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 20:17, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Don't Delete. He was killed in a battle while protecting his home village. That's not the definition of a martyr (as far as I know). In particular, in the “Arab Battle” section, sources were cited and neutral terms were used. There is no reason to delete this article. He was the grandfather of Yekutiel Adam, a former IDF chief of staff. Ravayev is also mentioned on this page. If we have sources, why don't we use them to create a page so people have more information? — Preceding unsigned comment added by OctoGreeko (talk • contribs) 20:32, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Hashomer, the organization Ravayev was a part of when he was killed, pending additional RS, which I do not currently see. Longhornsg (talk) 20:39, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Yekutiel Adam, where the history of Yekutiel Ravayev is justifiably mentioned at sufficient length (hence do not merge). Yekutiel Ravayev is not individually notable by WP:NEXIST (meaning that I actively looked for sources out there). Hashomer is not a good redirect destination as for outgoing links and, strictly speaking, Revayev should be deleted also from there if not kept in the AfD. In the intro, I would not make the following assumption: He has a memorial on an Israeli Ministry of Defence website, presumably because of his relationship to Yekutiel Adam. Any Israeli soldier, security personnel, or terrorism/war victim can have a bio at the general Yizkor site. Exactly why we can use such data but not source notability from here. The same Ministry of Defense operates multiple museums that carefully curate data of people of greater notability, battles, operations, methods, systems, etc. gidonb (talk) 00:26, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Post-close note for the record (in case we're back here again in the future) - the article's author, OctoGreeko (who also !voted in this discussion) is the sock of a blocked user. Girth Summit _(blether) 13:30, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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