Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yan Fei

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The result was keep. Sandstein 09:18, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yan Fei[edit]

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Totally uncited article (the single citation does not appear to mention the article's subject -- although admittedly that could be a translation issue). In addition, not sure the source is reliable. Regardless, searches did not turn up the necessary in-depth sourcing to show they pass WP:GNG. Was draftified in an attempt to assist the editor's creator, but was simply moved back to mainspace without improvement. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 15:15, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of China-related deletion discussions. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 15:15, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 15:54, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The cited source (Records of the Three Kingdoms) does mention the subject. It mentions "京兆太守濟北顏斐" ("Yan Fei of Jibei, governor of Jingzhao"), states "顏斐字文林" ("Yan Fei had the courtesy name Wen Lin"), and seems to give lots of other details using the name "Fei" (斐) by itself. A longer English translation is available here. Searching on Google Books and Google Scholar (for "Yan Fei" plus some relevant keywords) turns up more sources in English: [1][2][3]. Searching in Chinese turns up others: [4][5][6]. This is just a sample; more sources are available online, but I think this is enough to show notability. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 17:11, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify: If the subject really is notable, the article needs some work to actually show it. — {{u|Bsoyka}} ^talk 17:49, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Does not appear to meet notability requirements. Draftify - Changing to draftify to aid consensus based on the links above. Gusfriend (talk) 00:20, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Gusfriend: What do you make of the seven sources I linked? Are those not enough to demonstrate notability? If not, I can find more. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 08:33, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The sources, along with the unsourced text, would have been sufficient for me to vote draftify if the original page author had indicated a willingness to work on the article in draft space. Having said that, in the interest of consensus I have changed my vote to draftify. Gusfriend (talk) 08:50, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Not a problem from my part. I already translated the text. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ngancheekean (talk • contribs) 02:20, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
~~Draftify~~Keep ~~Currently, has lots of assertions that are unsupported. If there are usable references, will need significant work to meet article standards. Best to do that in draft space.~~ Recent changes sufficient to change my vote to keep — rsjaffe 🗣️ 19:53, 12 March 2022 (UTC) revised 11:37, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Yan Fei (simplified Chinese: 颜斐; traditional Chinese: 顏斐) passes Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline based on Mx. Granger (talk · contribs)'s sources. Thank you, Mx. Granger, for finding these sources. I've added this list of sources to the article:
1. Yu, Songnian (1840). Yi jia tang cong shu. Vol. 2. Retrieved 2022-03-18 – via Google Books.
2. de Crespigny, Rafe (2007). A Biographical Dictionary of Later Han to the Three Kingdoms (23-220 AD). Leiden: Brill Publishers. p. 933. ISBN 978-90-04-15605-0. Retrieved 2022-03-18 – via Google Books.
3. Tang, Yan; Guo, Lei-Xian (2016). "Farming space in ancient Chinese cities: Harmonious urban development shaped by agricultural civilization and rural relations". In Liu, Yuan-Ming; Fu, Dong; Tong, Zhen-Xin; Bao, Zhi-Qing; Tang, Bin (eds.). Civil Engineering and Urban Planning IV: Proceedings of the 4th International Conference on Civil Engineering and Urban Planning, Beijing, China, 25-27 July 2015. London: Taylor & Francis. p. 114. ISBN 978-1-138-02903-3. Retrieved 2022-03-18 – via Google Books.
4. 王明前 (December 2011). 张明海 (ed.). "三国两晋十六国南北土地制度的分与合" [The division and integration of the land systems in the north and south of the Three Kingdoms, the Jin Dynasty and the Sixteen Kingdoms] (PDF). Journal of Henan Business College (in Chinese). 24 (6). Henan University: 69. doi:10.3969/j.issn.1008-3928.2011.06.018. ISSN 1008-3928. Archived from the original (PDF) on 2022-03-18. Retrieved 2022-03-18.
5. 陶元珍 (1989). 三國食貨志 [Three Kingdoms Food and Goods] (in Chinese). Taipei: The Commercial Press [zh]. ISBN 957-05-0054-9. Retrieved 2022-03-18 – via Google Books.
6. 萬繩楠 (2002). 魏晉南北朝史論稿 [On the History of Wei, Jin, Southern and Northern Dynasties] (in Chinese). Taipei: 雲龍出版社. p. 33. ISBN 986-7938-02 -X. Retrieved 2022-03-18 – via Google Books.
I oppose moving to draft as the article now cites numerous reliable sources.
Cunard (talk) 09:37, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Thanks to the improvements made by Cunard.
On the other hand, also a special mention to the now-blocked Ngancheekean whose disruptive editing did this article no favours. MrsSnoozyTurtle

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