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The result was redirect to Yahoo! Messenger. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:03, 31 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yahoo! Messenger Protocol[edit]

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Article does not cite any sources for this defunct Yahoo! product, there may a few paragraphs that could be salvageable for the main Yahoo! Messenger article but other than that it should be deleted. Pahiy (talk) 20:14, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. Pahiy (talk) 20:14, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Technology-related deletion discussions.Pahiy (talk) 20:21, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions.Pahiy (talk) 20:21, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, the only way this article could be permitted would be if there were non-primary sources to cite. But they will certainly never appear because this protocol is now only interesting for software archeologists. --Ysangkok (talk) 23:38, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, Weirdly, there is quite a bit of coverage in scholarly article specifically of the network protocol rather than yahoo messenger. The sources seem to contrast it with IRC which is a highly notable network protocol. I would think of it more on that term than this. I'll add these in if the article is a keep [1][2]
https://www.usenix.org/legacy/event/sec07/tech/full_papers/cui/cui.pdf
http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~nahum/papers/ieee-network-instant-messaging.pdf PainProf (talk) 02:51, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete To pass WP:GNG, sources must be secondary, reliable, and significant. Neither of those papers pass. The first one is about a system for reverse engineering chat protocols. The second one is a study of the protocol directly, which means it is a primary source rather than a secondary source. Edit: The articles in the refs are primary as well: studies of the messengers using techniques such as traffic packet capture, due to the protocol being closed source. – FenixFeather (talk)(Contribs) 23:54, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kj cheetham (talk) 21:00, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, DMySon 04:11, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
  1. ^ Hong, Fei; Liu, Rui; Hu, Liting; Bai, Yu (December 2009). "Analysis and Characteristic at the Chat Session Level in Instant Message Traffic". 2009 First International Conference on Information Science and Engineering: 1666–1669. doi:10.1109/ICISE.2009.300.
  2. ^ Khoshbakhtian, Masoumeh; Darvishan, Amir Hasan; Eghtedari, Parisa (April 2008). "Comparative Analysis of IMP services". 2008 3rd International Conference on Information and Communication Technologies: From Theory to Applications: 1–6. doi:10.1109/ICTTA.2008.4530203.
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