Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Xcorpiiio

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete w/o prejudice to future restoration if their claim to encyclopedic notability improves. Ad Orientem (talk) 01:44, 15 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Xcorpiiio[edit]

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Subject fails GNG and WP:NMUSIC. Ceethekreator (talk) 15:20, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Ceethekreator (talk) 15:20, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Ceethekreator (talk) 15:20, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. Ceethekreator (talk) 15:20, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete the references used in the article are mostly non WP:RS. WP:MUSICBIO is not met and a search in news or books reveals nothing useful. There is no in-depth coverage by multiple independent reliable sources to meet WP:GNG. --Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 16:30, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Crystallizedcarbon Hello. I am Kylejinx (the author), just trying to figure out how this may be resolved. Which sites do you deem not notable enough? At least half of the sites that I have provided are in no way affiliated with the entity known as XCORPIIIO (Pandora, Spinnup, IMDb). Spinnup tracked the number of streams; no way could that be tampered with or done in his favor. Pandora recognized him as a promising artist according to their system's algorithm; there is no way that could've been done other than by them. Finally, IMDb is another site that merely lists the achievements of an entity. That page is not an IMDb Pro page, which insists that he was not included in the process of making it. Additionally, his music has been played on major radio stations via Pandora (Beyonce Radio, Lady Gaga Radio, Ariana Grande Radio, Rihanna Radio, Bruno Mars Radio, Top 40 Radio, etc), which is a merit of notability by Wikipedia's standards. I can provide proof of this as well, should that be needed. Thank you for your contribution to this discussion; I am hoping we will be able to figure a way for the article to remain on the site. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kylejinx (talk • contribs) 20:22, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hello @Kylejinx: Please check WP:RS. IMDb is not valid, see WP:USERG neither is Facebook or Spotify or Instagram. If you can find independent reliable sources with in depth coverage, please present them here. If there is enough coverage it can be kept. If not it may be a case of WP:TOOSOON. --Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 20:43, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Crystallizedcarbon “If you can find independent reliable sources with in depth coverage, please present them here. If there is enough coverage it can be kept.” Firstly, I will be taking down the said forms of proof that do not qualify by the end of the night. Thank you very much for letting me know. Secondly: Just to clarify, the Spinnup stream count and Pandora recognition qualify as recognizable proofs of notability? Finally: There is an article currently being written about the entity by the company, “Indie Rock Cafe”. Upon release of this article, will the subject entity [XCORPIIIO] officially have enough recognition to be qualified as “notable enough”? I appreciate your working with me on this matter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kylejinx (talk • contribs) 23:06, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Kylejinx: Unfortunately, neither one of those two count towards meeting the requirements for inclusion. What's needed is in-depth coverage by multiple secondary sources. They must meet WP:RS and have to be clearly independent of the subject. Mentions alone are not enough either. One article even if it meets all the previous criteria would not be enough, but it's an indication that in the future if the group does receive the needed coverage it could be recreated. --Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 06:37, 8 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Crystallizedcarbon Ok. Then, instead of deletion (because it did take an entire night to create), can the article just be moved to draft space? That way, once enough coverage has been had, it can be moved back to main space, instead of having to spend another entire night on it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kylejinx (talk • contribs) 12:28, 8 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Kylejinx: Personally I don't see a problem with that. The closing admin will probably take care of the move. Remember that you can also make a copy of the code on your local computer as a text file using notepad for example. Once enough coverage is added and when you think the article is ready you will be able to submit your draft for review. --Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 15:54, 8 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Crystallizedcarbon Alright. I will do just that! Thank you for your knowledge and assistance in this matter; I really appreciate it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kylejinx (talk • contribs) 21:05, 8 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for understanding @Kylejinx: Reading Help:Your first article may be of help for your future contributions and to determine if the subjects meet the needed notability requirements. --Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 06:29, 9 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: It should be noted that two of the images used in this article are previously deleted copyvios, which User:Kylejinx re-created. c:File:XCORPIIIO Headshot.jpg‎ was found on the Web at https://open.spotify.com/artist/7JIwODf8wOkzSj3R16Rl9s and https://music.apple.com/us/artist/xcorpiiio/1467603634 . c:File:PASSION FM. LOGO.jpg was also deleted, although User:Kylejinx claimed to be its creator. If true, that would seem to indicate a close connection with the subject of this bio which raises COI concerns to my mind. JGHowes ^talk 01:22, 10 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@JGHowes: I have been in touch with Wikipedia itself, concerning this matter already, and we have cleared/resolved it. Therefore, I do not find it necessary to dig any deeper into that specific topic. I also do not find this matter to even be necessary in this specific conversation, as a copyright dispute over a couple of photos is not why the article is where it stands, as far as being considered for deletion. Additionally, nothing that I wrote in the article was anywhere beyond the realm of neutral. There was nothing bias said at all. I made sure that I followed the rules and regulations concerning that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kylejinx (talk • contribs) 02:00, 10 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Kylejinx: If you have a direct relationship with the subject, you must disclose it. --Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 08:46, 10 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Crystallizedcarbon How can I do this? This is my first and only article; I would appreciate any kind of guidance you can provide on "disclosing" this information in the proper, acceptable way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kylejinx (talk • contribs) 09:14, 10 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Kylejinx: You can add the {{UserboxCOI}} template on your user page, If you don't know how, I can do it for you. What is your relationship with Xcorpiiio? --Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 10:17, 10 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Crystallizedcarbon Yes, please. I would very much so appreciate that. I am the graphic designer for XCORPIIIO (I create his album art), but I did also do a photoshoot of him last year. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kylejinx (talk • contribs) 17:03, 10 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you @Kylejinx: It is done. Once the subject receives enough in-depth coverage to fully satisfy WP:GNG or WP:MUSICBIO, you should request the creation of the article through Wikipedia:Articles for creation. If you have questions along the way, you can contact me at my talk page. Regards --Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 17:35, 10 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Crystallizedcarbon Thank you again, for all of your time and guidance. Best regards to you as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kylejinx (talk • contribs) 17:44, 10 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete or move to draft as it seems WP:TOOSOON at this stage, as for example he has no entry at all at AllMusic. Also the article is mainly over-detailed original research, but hopefully his career will progress and he will qualify for an article in the future, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 22:38, 11 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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