Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Xavier Ramirez

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The result was delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 01:29, 27 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Xavier Ramirez[edit]

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Clearly promotional, don't see notability. (Can't verify the claim about being featured in Vibe.) –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 06:22, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete All I could find was a blog post saying that he "hopes" that his upcoming (stalled) James Brown biopic will win some awards. Which filmmaker thinks, "I hope my film doesn't win any awards"? Not notable. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 06:33, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
What about the two articles already cited in the article? This appears to me to be substantial coverage in reliable independent sources. Candleabracadabra (talk) 08:48, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- - Reply Those are passing mentions providing no biographical details in local papers discussing a planned film that hasn't been released. If notability comes from an unknown director announcing a kick starter campaign to back a future film project, and gleaning two or three sentences in the local media, then we basically have no notability standards any more. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 20:09, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I remember seconding the PROD for this. Here's my original statement: "I tried looking for sources but could only find coverage from two local papers. I can't find anything that backs up the claim of being featured in Vibe other than primary sources from Ramirez and junk hits that mirror this article. The Vibe site has zero mentions of him, nor does the Jet website- something that makes me believe that these features didn't actually happen, or at least it was far from the way that this article implies that it did. I tried searching for the Vibe outtakes link below, which was originally 404'd. I found the link and not only is Ramirez NOT featured in the outtakes at all (not even as a photographer), but the link clearly states that the outtakes never appeared in the issue. On top of all that, if the claims of him working for Vibe and Jet in various formats are true, those would be primary links in any case." I'll do another look for sources, but I think that there is still a lack of notability. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 09:53, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I did another search and the issue is still the same. There's a lack of coverage for Ramirez to show that he's really been the focus of any in-depth coverage. There are assertions of Jet and Vibe covering him, but I can't really find either source and since he wrote for them, they'd be primary sources in any case. I also have to say that the two sources on the article are local sources so they're depreciated as far as showing notability goes. I removed a lot of the stuff in the EL section since much of it was either dead or didn't discuss Ramirez at all. Others were just blog hits or other places that wouldn't be usable as RS. The only one that looks somewhat usable is this link, which is only more local coverage. For the claims made in the article, there's a huge lack of coverage in reliable sources and all we have are three local sources- not really what I'd call in-depth. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 10:09, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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