Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Worarat Suwannarat

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy keep. Withdrawn by nominator. No editors in favour of deletion. (non-admin closure) Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:43, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Worarat Suwannarat[edit]

[Hide this box] New to Articles for deletion (AfD)? Read these primers!

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Per Wikipedia:WikiProject Beauty Pageants/Notability (beauty pageant participants), not a winner of a Big 4; has a single mini-series film credit on IMDB. Insufficient depth of coverage to meet WP:BIO. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 15:30, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 16:39, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Beauty pageants-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 16:39, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Thailand-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 16:39, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: The subject's main claim to notability would be not from her pageant titles but her acting career. The Thai Wikipedia lists eight TV roles between 1999 and 2005, including a lead role in the highly popular 2000 production of Angkor. In-depth news coverage most likely exists from the period of her peak career two decades ago, which is naturally not available online but would be archived in research libraries. Recent entertainment news columns from major outlets still cover her now and then, and describe her popularity back in the day.[1][2][3][4][5] --Paul_012 (talk) 17:43, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Paul_012 So she passes WP:NACTOR or not? VocalIndia (talk) 03:10, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It would depend on whether her other works (apart from Angkor) are also considered notable. เพชรตาแมว (Phet Ta Maeo, 1999) and คู่อันตรายดับเครื่องชน (Khu Antarai Dap Khrueang Chon, 1999), in which she co-starred, don't currently have articles on the Thai Wikipedia, but comparable titles from today would most likely generate enough coverage to satisfy the notability criteria. These magazine covers also suggest so.[6][7][8] (PS A ping won't work if you add the signature in a later edit.) --Paul_012 (talk) 11:38, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete The sourcing is no where near the level we would need to show notability. Nothing she did is even close to showing default notability, so we need actual sources to show notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:51, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sources certainly exist but need trip to national library to find those printed newspapers and magazines. --Lerdsuwa (talk) 05:45, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment According to [9][10] Angkor, which Worarat Suwannarat was the leading actress, was the TV series director Chalong Pakdeevijit's top TV rating at 30 (means 30% of Thai population were watching the TV program). According to [11], top 5 ever for Thai TV series had ratings of 40 (by 1990 version of Khu Kam), 38 (by 1994 version of Dao Pra Sook), 36, 34, and 32 respectively. According to [12] a recent top TV drama Love Destiny (TV series) only had rating of 23.4 in Bangkok and 18.6 nationwide as fewer people watch TV these days. --Lerdsuwa (talk) 02:29, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Angkor appear to ranked 8th in all-time Thai TV series rating according to someone's unofficial list posted in a webboard [13] but high ratings are rare back then and modern day TV rating is only in single digits like this one from yesterday [14]. None higher in the list was aired in the same year so this should be top rating of that year as well. --Lerdsuwa (talk) 04:56, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep It appears her roles as a lead actress in TV are enough to show notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:31, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Withdraw nomination I'm now convinced that she's reasonably notable in Thailand. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 16:41, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.