Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Woody Pak

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The result was delete. Missvain (talk) 00:24, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Woody Pak[edit]

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Fails GNG, WP:MUSICBIO. Previously deleted. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 14:24, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 14:24, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 14:24, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

KEEP: Citations satisfy both WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO. Previously deleted section was restored with original citations. Furthermore there is a demonstrated notability and sustained interest over time - a period of over 20 years as seen in the citations. For example a 1999 citation to Pak's musical Making Tracks[1] to the 2020 article about Ultra Nate where co-writer Lem Springsteen speak of Pak's role in the success of Free [2]. Another 2 articles from different Korean newspapers about his 2020 composition for Eunil Kang [3] and [4].

Thank you Checkers&pogo for the clarification between WP:MUSICBIO and WP:COMPOSER. Please note that I am mistaken regarding my previous comment above regarding WP:MUSICBIO. As Checkers&pogo stated below, with the available citations on the Woody Pak article he in fact should be evaluated as WP:COMPOSER and, as Checkers&pogo stated, satisfies the criteria(ANNA E PARK (talk) 11:33, 18 December 2020 (UTC))[reply]

KEEP: Woody Pak doesn't satisfy WP:MUSICBIO from what I can see BUT he does satisfy WP:COMPOSER as his article has numerous citations of notable runs of his musicals Making Tracks[5] and The Wedding Banquet[6]. He clearly satisfies the criteria for WP:COMPOSER. (Checkers&pogo (talk) 11:08, 18 December 2020 (UTC)) Checkers&pogo (talk · contribs) has only contributed to the article(s) under discussion for deletion and this XFD page. There's an SPI at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/ANNA E PARK. Cabayi (talk) 17:10, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I'm a huge B-boy enthusiast and totally support the inclusion of the Woody Pak article in Wikipedia. Woody Pak - the composer - is citable in numerous Youtube videos of his soundtrack work, in particular the Live From Planet B-Boy Featuring Iamisee. Here are a few links to them. [7] [8] [9] [10] These are all from over 10 years ago. These should verify his role as composer in Planet B-boy in addition to the IMDB link (though I know is often not considered reliable). [11] [12] It is a notable film. Bert&Ernie70 (talk) 01:51, 20 December 2020 (UTC) Bert&Ernie70 (talk · contribs) has only contributed to the article(s) under discussion for deletion and this XFD page. There's an SPI at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/ANNA E PARK. Cabayi (talk) 17:10, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Eddie891 Talk Work 21:52, 24 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. The 115 references in this article seem to be 1) mostly referring to IMdB, and 2) otherwise devoid of depth or value. If I'm wrong, please point me to those that are discussions of sufficient depth from independent and reliable sources. BD2412 T 23:32, 24 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - I do not see any in-depth coverage in reliable sources. Nearly all imdb. Other sources are just mentions - in the Guardian article, for example, it simply states "I asked Woody Pak, a guy I knew from the Manhattan School of Music, to play guitar." That is the only mention. Ultimately, it is clear someone associated with the subject or just a really big fan combed all Google results for mentions and threw them in. It doesn't amount to in-depth coverage, though. Nearly everything is imdb. There are some articles re stage productions, but again, just mentions to the tune of "Woody Pak (music), and no evidence his works make him notable. ie, these are not major productions. ‡ Єl Cid of Valencia talk 16:06, 28 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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