Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Winter of 2010–11 in Great Britain and Ireland

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. MBisanz talk 10:49, 17 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Winter of 2010–11 in Great Britain and Ireland[edit]

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At first glance, this looks like a well-rounded article. Reading it fully, it consists mostly of a WP:SYNTHESIS compilation of daily weather reports. Documented effects are moderate and on par with an ordinary winter (a few accidental deaths, icy roads, schools closed one day). No WP:LASTING significance. Wikipedia is not the Weather Channel. — JFG talk 09:28, 9 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for participating. — JFG talk 10:20, 9 August 2018 (UTC) — Updated 09:12, 2 September 2018 (UTC).[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 11:14, 9 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Scotland-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 11:15, 9 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 11:15, 9 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 11:16, 9 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Environment-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 11:40, 9 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep and improve - Whatever about the other articles listed, I don't think it is accurate to state that the subject of the article under discussion here (UK/IE Winter 2010) was an "ordinary winter". As per a number of reliable sources (not synth) in the UK and Ireland, it was considered an unusual phenomenon then. Meeting WP:GNG. And has been the subject of analysis and retrospective since. Meeting WP:LASTING. I absolutely agree that the article needs improvement. In particular to remove the "daily weather report" style structure and the uncited "weather stats" that are peppered throughout. Both of which, per nominators note, fail "Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of stats" and "Wikipedia is not the news and weather" norms. But I cannot support a deletion. As the subject itself meets WP:GNG and WP:LASTING. Guliolopez (talk) 11:52, 9 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the link to retrospective sources. I will just note that the Met Office publishes "interesting" notes for every year since 2000,[1] so that I'm not sure why we should single out the 2010–11 winter. Actually the 2009–10 winter was much more severe, extending a long cold grip all across Europe, and accordingly enjoys three well-documented articles. — JFG talk 14:19, 9 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per GNG. The idea that unusual events that cause media attention are not unusual because they are commonplace elsewhere elsewhere in the world is flawed WP:SYNTH. Agathoclea (talk) 13:32, 9 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nobody argued that this particular winter was "commonplace elsewhere". It was certainly a bit colder than usual over the British Isles, but singling out every cold winter does a disservice to truly exceptional events such as the 1990–1991 or 2009–2010 brutal and persistent cold spells. — JFG talk 14:22, 9 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Winter happens every year, sometimes worse than other years. Sources are contemporaneous weather news that do not provide lasting impacts or notability. Reywas92Talk 18:57, 9 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep and improve - The article is already well-written and covered by a substantial amount of sources. Some areas might benefit from a little revision but the topic is already notable enough for its own article. LightandDark2000 (talk) 20:41, 9 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - while it could be improved, this was certainly a significant event - especially in Scotland where the late November/December 2010 conditions and the resulting travel chaos they caused lead to the resignation of Stewart Stevenson as transport minister. Dunarc (talk) 19:51, 12 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Notable weather event with several records broken and well documented impacts. yorkshiresky (talk) 15:59, 13 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The article is well sourced and definitely an extreme event for this area of the world. Many people remember the winter of 2010-11 for its extreme cold and snow from late November to early Jan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RandomIntrigue (talk • contribs) 17:31, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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