Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wilayat Nineveh (ISIL)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. Michig (talk) 07:34, 26 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wilayat Nineveh (ISIL)[edit]

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non-notable, self-proclaimed admin division ukexpat (talk) 20:10, 11 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - ISIL controls the region several months and has set up administration, with the name utilized by the Islamic State of Iraq since at least 2012 [1]. A notable article!GreyShark (dibra) 21:39, 11 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment In that case there should be some better sources than a blog post of dubious reliability and a single book. ukexpat (talk) 21:44, 11 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
delete a blog post as an effectively self published book. fails WP:GNG no significant third party coverage in reliable sources. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 01:32, 12 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Iraq-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:15, 12 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep It is a province of isis, so it is notable--Arbutus the tree (talk) 05:14, 14 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

hardly, since no one recognizes ISIS as a legit government. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 07:51, 14 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Legit or not legit, it's there, and acting as a government. Their divisions may correspond to previously accepted divisions, but not necessarily. DGG ( talk ) 01:20, 16 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural comment - I've undone an out-of-process redirection and speedy nomination by User:Legacypac, please comment at this ongoing discussion instead of acting directly. ansh666 07:03, 16 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The undoing of my clean up is not appreciated. ISIL "governments" are actually varying degrees of military controls. s/b Redirect or Delete This is but one of about 16 inappropriate one line "articles" that should have been deleted. I generously redirected this to ISIL territorial claims. If someone wants to flesh out some actual content on this topic there go ahead, but one or two unsupported lines that tell the reader nothing useful about a fictional government division with no context are pretty useless. At least a little context can be found at ISIL territorial claims but in the current state this page is just ISIL propaganda that legitimizes their claims. There are precious few references if you search [[2]] and some are just circular references quoting Wikipedia. Legacypac (talk) 10:08, 16 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 00:41, 19 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete ISIS is not a state, it is a terrorist organization that controls territory. No actual state on the planet has recognized ISIS as a state. However many states, as well as the United Nations, have declared ISIS to be a terrorist organization. ISIS's "administrative zones" need to actually pass notability requirements to get an article. There are almost no reliable sources for this article, so it should be deleted or redirected. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 03:38, 19 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Why haven't we deleted this yet? The sourcing is pathetic.—S Marshall T/C 10:31, 19 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@S Marshall: So you believe that it should be deleted. Why not mentioning the "Delete" word at the beginning? This word is used by the tools and also helps the other editors to know your opinion faster, although this is not voting. Mhhossein (talk) 18:26, 19 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I usually don't do words in bold. If you'd like to know what I think, I'm afraid you'll just have to read what I say.—S Marshall T/C

Delete This group is not recognized as an official state and the group has been designated as a terrorist organization by the United Nations, the European Union, the United Kingdom, India, the United States, Australia, Indonesia, Canada, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, and Egypt. so how can it have an official province. This article does not meet the general notability guide line. Mhhossein (talk) 18:34, 19 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Still Delete and the text of the article does not even use the name spelling of the name as the title. Not notable and poorly sourced. Legacypac (talk) 19:14, 21 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.