Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Where the Penguins Fly

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Josip Vujčić. MBisanz ^talk 13:34, 13 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Where the Penguins Fly[edit]

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A non-notable film. I could find only one article online which discusses the film in any detail ([1](in Croatian)), published while the film was still in production. I could not find any reviews (or any info about its reception), nor evidence the film had a theatrical release. It does not meet WP:NFOE. GregorB (talk) 18:45, 4 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Every morning (there's a halo...) 20:57, 4 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Croatia-related deletion discussions. L3X1 ◊distænt write◊ 21:47, 4 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Seems to fail GNG and WP:NFILM. There might be coverage in Croatian but I do not speak that language – if nominator is Croatian and cannot find coverage, there probably is not. Hrodvarsson (talk) 01:26, 5 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Merge/Redirect to directors article FloridaArmy (talk) 23:46, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to director/writer's article. --Doncram (talk) 19:54, 9 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as non-notable film. I've just prodded the director's article – this local web portal interview is the best reference about him that I can find, so don't bother merging. No such user (talk) 15:54, 11 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- And that's not a bad call either - I nominated the film just because its case should be clearer. GregorB (talk) 18:00, 11 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I removed that PROD as highly inappropriate. It is reasonable target for merger from here. Deleting it while this AFD under discussion undermines reasonable consideration. Inappropriate like it is to delete substantial content from any article at AFD, or just before nominating for AFD. --Doncram (talk) 03:34, 12 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Doncram: Removing the prod certainly was your prerogative, but it's just dragging the procedure for no substantial reason. Prod expires after seven days, thus it would be deleted after this AfD is closed. I was under impression that merge votes here were based more on the fact that the director's article exists, than on merits of notability and sourcing: the two of us, native speakers found nothing. We're dealing with a common WP:WALLEDGARDEN COI situation, as can be easily evidenced by username of Jvujcic (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). No such user (talk) 07:16, 12 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'd volunteer to do the merge into Josip Vujčić should that be the outcome of this discussion, but frankly I don't see any mergeable content. If that is indeed the case, then Doncram's point is moot. GregorB (talk) 12:36, 12 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Not moot. Whether it is a redirect to that article, with bare mention of this film, or a larger merge, doesn't matter. It still is unhelpful to delete the merger/redirect target proposed, when AFD about this film article is going on. About PROD expiring after 7 days, I am not sure about that (about whether they are sometimes ended sooner i dunno), but it conceivably could end before this AFD is done. AFDs often run for more than a week.

It certainly seems argumentative to PROD the director/writer article, which I would think is almost certainly more central, more notable than just one of their works, while full-blown AFD is going on about the work. --Doncram (talk) 20:36, 12 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You have a point - indeed, it is better not to interfere with the process in this way, even if the end result should turn out to be the same. GregorB (talk) 21:00, 12 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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