Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/War of the Worlds – The True Story

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The result was merge to H. G. Wells' The War of the Worlds (2005 film)#Reboot . MQS and ridernyc have between them solved the problem of what to do on this. DGG ( talk ) 18:52, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

War of the Worlds – The True Story[edit]

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Non-notable small budget sci-fi film. Can find nothing but self released PR about this. The most notable thing about this movie is it is a re-edit of a film that was notorious for fake reviews and other forms of astro turfing from the producres. This article was created and is maintained by a single purpose account. Ridernyc (talk) 23:06, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Further of the 4 sources used in the article two of them are reprints from self published PR sources, one is broken, and one is to a non-notable blog. Ridernyc (talk) 23:17, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Science fiction-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:53, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:53, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

~~Keep.~~ Article topic meets WP:GNG and WP:NF and current state is an addressable issue, as is any posible behavior problems of ownership by article's creator. Addressable issues do not require deletion, and the article and Wikipedia would best benefit from cleanup and sourcing using available reliable sources found through searches, among which are Dread Central[1] Monsters & Critics [2] [3] [4] Film Threat [5] Oakland Tribune [6] Variety [7] [8] JoBlo [9] Seatle Times [10] Milwaukee Journal Sentinel [11] [12] Animation Magazine [13] Moviegod (German) [14] Comic Book Bin [15] Creative Mac [16] [17] Ocala Star Banner [18] Sarasota Herald-Tribune [19] Cinema Blend [20] [21] New York Post [22] Charlotte Observer [23] and Sacramento Bee [24] Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 05:53, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's not clear as to why Variety Jun. 28, 2005, for example, is a reference for the 2012 "War of the Worlds – The True Story" article when the Variety article doesn't mention "True Story"? -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 04:17, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Struck my keep and changed to redirect/merge down below per insights offered by User:Ridernyc. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 07:22, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - I only found one reference: Seattle Times July 22, 2011, which leads to delete. I looked through some of Schmidt's references and they go back to at least 2001 for this 2012 movie. It could have been in process that long, but it's hard to tell since the some of the links provided by Schmidt only lead to partial articles from which it is hard to determine whether they are talking about War of the Worlds – The True Story. The project could have been under another name. It's hard to figure out what is going on without seeing the info in the article. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 04:12, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I've stricken the one errant link. Not at all surprising that we have production coverage in others from before 2012, as the topic of Hines' project has been discussed even as early as 2005 and has gained attention in more than trivial fashion.[25][26] Simply stated, using "War of the Worlds"+"Timothy Hines" as our search parameter, we have information available in multiple sources which can be used to improve the article. What can be fixed does not need deletion. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 09:17, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You are confusing 2 different films here. This version has almost no independent coverage, merge with the original version of this film is a possibility. Ridernyc (talk) 04:23, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Yunshui 雲‍水 09:52, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep passes notability guidelines with sufficient coverage through multiple sources. AfD is not cleanup. Bonkers The Clown (talk) 13:38, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment A very large number if not all of the sources provide have been for this film H. G. Wells' War of the Worlds (2005 film), same producers, same stars, I think even plenty of the same footage, however not the same film. Let's actually look at the sources and what they are talking about and not just blindly cut and past every hit we think we are getting for this film. Ridernyc (talk) 04:28, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I can not find a single source quoted out of the sources about that is about this film and not the 2005 film. Ridernyc (talk) 04:32, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nice catch. I'll have to go through them again, to see which are the sources speaking about Tim Hines' dis-satisfaction with his 2005 effort and wanting to do a remake. Already I found Dread Central (2011) offering information about remaking his 2005 film. Thank you. Do we have an article on the 2005 effort? If so then we might consider a redirect to a section on "Remake". Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 05:11, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Found it. Redirect/merge to Hines' 2005 film to the section H. G. Wells' The War of the Worlds (2005 film)#Reboot where it can be spoken of in context to the 2005 film and the director's wish to do a remake. The series of the Wells-related Hines' films have an interesting and inter-twined history. Allow recreation/undeletion only if (or when) the newer version can meet notability standards for film. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 07:22, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.