Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Walter (Ugly Betty)

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The result was delete. JForget 01:12, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Walter (Ugly Betty)[edit]

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Delete - no independent reliable sources that are significantly about this character. Fails WP:GNG and WP:PLOT. Charatcer is already fully covered at List of Ugly Betty characters and the article's name is a highly implausible search term, so there is nothing to merge and no redirect is needed. PROD declined by an editor who habitually declines PRODs for fictional subjects at the rate of three or more per minute. Are You The Cow Of Pain? (talk) 21:46, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - There is some confliction on IMDB. They say he's in 20 eps, but his supposed last appearance is the 15th episode of season 1. It appears that there is only brief coverage of him as a character, and it's probably best covered on Ugly Betty (season 1), in a (needs to be developed) reception section. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 22:58, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

So are you arguing that the content be merged into Ugly Betty (season 1), redirected to that same article, or deleted entirely and brand new content created from scratch to go into that article? Jclemens (talk) 23:17, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

He said delete so he's arguing delete. Are You The Cow Of Pain? (talk) 23:33, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There's nothing to merge, because the "Reception" section is unsourced. I'm saying that sourcable reception info could be placed in the season 1 article, because that's probably going to be the best place for it. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 22:44, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Merge (as PROD decliner) to List of Ugly Betty characters per our usual and customary handling of not-individually-notable characters in major TV shows. Jclemens (talk) 23:17, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As noted in the nomination, the character is already appropriately covered in that list. Are You The Cow Of Pain? (talk) 23:33, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree..there's nothing to merge and the name isn't a likely search either because there is no last name and the average reader won't know to add "(Ugly Betty)" after the name. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 02:26, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to list. Minor character and no references. AniMate 23:45, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Redirection of an ambiguated name? How many people will be searching for "Walter (Ugly Betty)"? Given that he appearantly has no last name, he wouldn't even come up in the initially search block because of all the other "Walters" that pop up. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 02:22, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Redirects are pretty cheap, I don't see how one could hurt. AniMate 20:59, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deletions are even cheaper; who is this going to help? Also, WP:NOHARM. Are You The Cow Of Pain? (talk) 21:09, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Redirections are good, when they are useful. A redirection of "Walter (Ugly Betty)" would be unuseful, because the average reader does not understand our naming conventions (i.e. "(Ugly Betty)") and would thus never find the redirect. Typing "Walter" doesn't bring "Walter (Ugly Betty)" into view of the search box. You'd never find the page in the search feature, thus it makes the redirect irrelevant, given that articles should pipe directly to his section and not to some redirect. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 22:43, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Again redirects are cheap and easy. This didn't even need to come here if the proposer had just redirected it. Besides I don't think "Walter Ugly Betty" is too big of a stretch for a search here. AniMate 22:57, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Then the redirect needs to be Walter Ugly Betty, and this page can still be deleted. The point is that "Walter (Ugly Betty)" is not a typical search term, and the average reader won't know to include parantheses like that around "Ugly Betty". BIGNOLE (Contact me) 05:28, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per lack of sources. A merge is inappropriate because the character is already covered in sufficient depth at List of Ugly Betty characters and because unsourced content is not suitable to be merged anywhere. Reyk _YO! 00:13, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:19, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Note: The article under discussion here has been flagged for {{Rescue}} by the Article Rescue Squadron. SnottyWong ^gab 00:03, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- CLARIFY: The article under discussion here was tagged for {{Rescue}} by anonymous IP 32.175.17.25 [1] in seeking assistance with its improvement. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 03:04, 13 July 2010 (UTC) [reply]
Delete - no reliable sources, no notability. Redirect to list article is not useful in this case. SnottyWong ^gab 00:03, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete no sources to WP:verify notability. Shooterwalker (talk) 01:46, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.