Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/W. Baker (Worcestershire cricketer)

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The result was redirect to List of Worcestershire County Cricket Club players. As an ATD in the absence of substantive sources. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 23:07, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

W. Baker (Worcestershire cricketer)[edit]

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Non-notable cricketer, nothing in coverage, fails WP:GNG. Störm (talk) 06:42, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 08:53, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Cricket-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 08:53, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 08:53, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Yes has only played 2 FC matches (enough to pass WP:NCRIC in it's current form), and a search was difficult with the limited details we know, but the matches he played were both in the County Championship, which will have been very well covered at the time. Sources are likely to exist offline because of this. List of Worcestershire County Cricket Club players is a suitable WP:ATD if needed. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 12:05, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

What are these sources that you assert are likely to exist offline? There's nothing in newspapers, so were there other publications that covered County Championship matches in such detail that even insignificant players were covered in sufficient detail to form the basis of an article? ----Pontificalibus 11:30, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Rugbyfan22. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 17:44, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Very surprised a player from 1920 doesn't have any known biographical details. Even if he is redirected, a positive ID would be nice. StickyWicket (talk) 21:18, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete we have a scorecard and a statistics listing. Definitively fails WP:GNG, which supersedes NCRIC - there's not an ounce of SIGCOV. If sources are found, please let me know. SportingFlyer T·C 21:17, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails GNG. Neither the Guardian match reports (e.g. https://www.newspapers.com/image/258093251/) nor syndicated local newspaper reports mention his first name or contain any details about him, so it seems his contribution to the two matches was considered entirely unremarkable.----Pontificalibus 10:54, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 00:45, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. You can't build a biography around hypothetical sources that maybe someone will discover in the future, especially when the sources that do exist don't indicate any impact whatsoever. GNG is not met here, full stop. JoelleJay (talk) 05:22, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of Worcestershire County Cricket Club players, where a note can be added if necessary to expand on his playing record and the fact that we appear to not have a forename etc... This is a well established ATD in such cases - I'd have boldly done it rather than bother with an AfD. If further information is found about him (it happens) we can then roll back the redirection and move forward. Blue Square Thing (talk) 08:35, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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