Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/VoicePulse (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep. BJ^Talk 23:22, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

VoicePulse[edit]

Non-notable company per WP:CORP; article has existed for a very long time without improvement. It was kept at AfD before purely on the basis of google hits, despite it being an advertisement. Mango juice^talk 15:57, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, possibly speedily as it fails WP:CORP, no assertion of notability. TrulyBlue (talk) 17:04, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. This is a notable company whose service has gotten good reviews in reliable sources such as PC Magazine, eWeek and ComputerShopper. I added several references. I want to emphasize to everyone who regularly participates at AfD discussions that a search at Google News archive is often quite helpful if you are trying to determine whether a company is notable. --Eastmain (talk) 17:23, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I looked at the refs, and they appear to mention VoicePulse as one of a number of reviewed suppliers. Any magazine reviewing VOIP might chance on VoicePulse and review it, but to my mind that doesn't make it notable unless it wins awards or even a reasonable client base. Is there any indication how many people use it, what percentage of total usage that may represent, or whether VoicePulse innovates in any way? These would make it notable, rather than a few trade press reviews. TrulyBlue (talk) 21:19, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions. —Eastmain (talk) 17:23, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of New Jersey-related deletion discussions. —Eastmain (talk) 17:23, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. —Eastmain (talk) 17:23, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Seems to be a significant player in VOIP space; deletion would leave a hole in our coverage. Sources establish notability. Failure to assert notability is a speedy criterion, not an AfD criterion, and notable articles aren't speedied that way. Solution to overly brief article on notable topic to keep and improve, not delete. Wikidemo (talk) 17:45, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Nice work by Eastmain (talk · contribs) with the References, though preferably this should be incorporated with citations into expanding the main article's body text. Cirt (talk) 21:07, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, fails WP:CORP —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ernestvoice (talk • contribs) 16:43, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - coverage in reliable sources establish notability. In this article, PC Magazine states that VoicePulse is one of the more established players in the VoIP space. which is a rather expicit statement of notability documented in a reliable source. -- Whpq (talk) 18:38, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.