Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Visions of Violence (film)

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The result was delete. Sandstein 14:51, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Visions of Violence (film)[edit]

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Non notable film, completely fails WP:NFILM and WP:GNG. Seems like self-promotion. Donaldd23 (talk) 22:34, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Donaldd23 (talk) 22:34, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Donaldd23 (talk) 22:34, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - worth noting that page creator has said The proposed deletion was requested to be removed because this film ties in directly with the other director's film: Knock 'Em Dead, Kid (film). I could see a possible request for some verbiage to be corrected but this is a viable page for a real project and the references were cited. Instead of requesting deletion, please make recommendations for a possible fix. I've messaged them to see if they have any reviews for this film. I couldn't find any in a search. There weren't even any user reviews on IMDb! I'll wait to see if the creator can provide reliable sources (none of the ones in the article are). Spiderone 23:24, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. There's nothing out there for this film to establish how it's individually notable. Assuming the other film is notable, notability is not inherited from the other film. IMDb is not usable as a source on Wikipedia because it's easy to submit false or incorrect information. It doesn't mean that the info here is incorrect, just that the abuse from others has been so bad that IMDb just isn't reliable. Even if it could be used, it would be a database listing at best and couldn't give notability. Since notability is an issue here, I'll investigate the other film to see if it also has notability issues. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 09:42, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The other two sources, search my trash and a self-published blog, aren't usable either. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 09:43, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Notability for the other film is definitely questionable, but I'd give it a weak pass based on the reviews. (FWIW, it's mostly because the sources appear to be trustworthy enough for notable persons to give interviews with.) It's not the strongest, so I'd definitely recommend putting better sourcing in that article. I'm not sure how it ties into VoV since it doesn't seem to have any of the same characters. If there is a tie, like it being in the same universe, then there could be a section for this in the KEDK article. It is set in the same town, so it's likely. Otherwise if it's just a case of it having the same director, then that's not really enough of a tie to warrant a mention. In any case, there would need to be a reliable source to back up the claim of it being in the same film universe. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 10:58, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - I can't see any reviews nor awards nor decent coverage in WP:RS Spiderone 17:43, 6 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Article promoting a film that fails WP:NFILM and the GNG by a long long shot. Java Hurricane 02:39, 8 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.