Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vincent Elbaz

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was withdrawn by nominator. ➨ ❝ЯEDVERS❞ a sweet and tender hooligan 08:56, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Vincent Elbaz[edit]

No real evidence of notability has been presented. A prod was removed by someone who stated that google books search found enough hits that it was likely that some of them were real references, but, without a French-speaking person confirming, that doesn't seem an adequate reason. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 02:44, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete – Fails WP:ENTERTAINER … having an IMDb entry is insufficient WP:Notability … Happy Editing! — 72.75.110.31 (talk · contribs) _{02:56, 3 November 2008 (UTC)}[reply]
Delete I PROD'ded this, but if no references are to be forthcoming to establish notability, it should go. --Rodhull andemu 03:02, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. A great deal of newscoverage of him in French newsmedia: 12 news-stories in the last 2 weeks in googlenews[1] and 259 hits in googlenews archives[2]. Even with my very limited French I can see that many of these newsstories provide nontrivial significant (or, at the very least, nontrivial) coverage of him. Certainly enough to pass WP:BIO. Nsk92 (talk) 03:06, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. So add some references you consider relevant to the article. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 03:09, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - Someone more fluent in French than me should do that. The point is, sufficient sources obviously exist to establish notability. This means that the article can be improved and hence, per the deletion policy WP:DEL, it is to be improved, rather than deleted. The article has been listed for an AfD and I am expressing my opinion here. Nsk92 (talk) 03:16, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    - I guess that means it's not obvious that there are any relevant references. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 03:18, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      - No, it just means that my French sucks. Here is an example[3] of a bio article about him picked from the googlenews results above. Nsk92 (talk) 03:24, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      - Also, according to the French Wikipedia article[4], he received the 1998 Jean Gabin Prize. I confirmed it at the official website of the prize[5] (they have those damned pop-ups there, so one needs to click on "Entrez" and then on "Le Prix Jean Gabin" to see a gallery with the list of the prize recepients. Then click on the right-most photograph in the second row from the bottom (that is Elbaz) and an award citation for him appears). Nsk92 (talk) 03:42, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
        That's all Very Nice, but until any of it appears in the article under discussion here, it remains unreferenced. — 72.75.110.31 (talk) 03:51, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
        That's not a good argument. There is no deadline on Wikipedia. Articles should be deleted only if no sources can be found. If the article is unreferenced and there are many sources about it, then the article should definitely be kept. Cunard (talk) 04:06, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of France-related deletion discussions. —Cunard (talk) 03:58, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and actresses-related deletion discussions. —Cunard (talk) 04:00, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. —Cunard (talk) 04:03, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Nsk92. The state of referencing in an article is not relevant to deletion. The references Nsk92 provided here, together with the ones in the article are quite sufficient.John Z (talk) 04:49, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep plenty of reliable sourcing. I have added one ref to the article and plan to add more. Icewedge (talk) 04:53, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I added a filmography from the French Wikipedia and some references. -- Eastmain (talk) 05:07, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: are any of the blue-links real? The first one (Just Do It) refers to something else entirely. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 08:23, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Withdraw. The Jean Gabin Prize appears to provide sufficient notability, even though we don't have anything about it here. (I'm afraid this withdrawal will not stop the AfD, as there are 2 other delete !votes, but I think I was wrong, anyway.) — Arthur Rubin (talk) 08:44, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.