Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera

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The result was no consensus. No prejudice against speedy renomination per low participation. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 05:48, 17 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera[edit]

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Fails WP:NPROF. Current sourcing is abysmal - a Blogspot blog, a Typepad blog, and a page from his institution. Google Scholar shows his h index as a modest 12 and there are no indications of awards, honors or other criteria that would satisfy WP:NPROF. Overall he appears to be a competent workaday academic but nowhere close to notable in the Wikipedia sense. Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 00:56, 26 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Its obvious that the current article doesn't support inclusion, but the question is could it be improved? (1) El Universal which appears to be a RS from its WP page El Universal_(Mexico_City), uses the word encabezados to describe his relationship with the Institute of Geophysics at the National Autonomous University of Mexico [1]. Translated to English that means he "heads" the Institute [2]. I think that would qualify as The person holds or has held a named chair appointment or distinguished professor appointment at a major institution of higher education and research (or an equivalent position in countries where named chairs are uncommon). The National Autonomous University of Mexico is a very prestigious research university in Mexico and if he is top person their Institute of Geophysics, that would qualify as an equivalent position in countries where named chairs are uncommon.. (2) He is also a member of Sistema Nacional de Investigadores, which could qualify as The person is or has been an elected member of a highly selective and prestigious scholarly society or association (e.g., a National Academy of Sciences or the Royal Society).-Obsidi (talk) 22:04, 26 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Basing a translation on picking out individual words can be risky. How would you rate your level of proficiency in Spanish? My own is not native-level, but I'm translating Investigadores del instituto de Geofísica de la Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México (UNAM), encabezados por Víctor Manuel Velasco Herrera descubrieron la existencia... as "Investigators from the Institute of Geophysics of the National Autonomous University of Mexico, headed by Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera discovered the existence..." meaning that he led the group of investigators, not that he led the institute. The news article is almost certainly referring to Velasco Herrera et al. (2015) where he is lead author -- he "heads" the team. Note the current Director of IGF is Hugo Delgado Granados. Velasco makes no mention of having been head of the Institute on his CV, which would be an unusual omission. I'm not necessarily saying you're wrong, but at the least it's highly uncertain and we need firmer evidence.
Likewise it's uncertain that membership in the Sistema Nacional de Investigadores is sufficiently "highly selective and prestigious" to satisfy notability. As you have noted, WP:NPROF mentions the U.S. National Academy of Sciences as an example; the NAS has about 2,290 members. Contrast this with SNI, which as of 2010 had about 16,400 members -- more than six times the NAS, despite being drawn from a much smaller academic community. Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 04:29, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Mexico-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 22:27, 26 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kpg jhp jm 01:55, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 02:57, 10 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.