Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Venezuelan nuclear program

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was deleted (CSD G7) by Athaenara. NAC. Cliff smith ^talk 03:30, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Venezuelan nuclear program[edit]

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Short article centered around speculations. One source is totally fringy, the other does back any claim that such a programme exists. Soman (talk) 08:01, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - no significant coverage in reliable sources as far as I can see, and we shouldn't have articles on things which most likely don't exist, unless the rumour concerning them is in itself notable. Claritas § 09:41, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Good grief! Where and how did either of you look for sources? I performed a Google News search for the obvious keywords and came up with plenty of reliable sources, documenting what does and doesn't exist and people's analyses and reactions, such as this one, this one, and this one, within a few seconds. Did either of you actually look anywhere at all? Because the sheer ease of finding sources when one actually does makes these look like zero-effort rationales, that are no help to Wikipedia whatsoever.
The Daily Telegraph, the New York Times, the Associated Press, and Bloomberg are not "fringy", by the way. Uncle G (talk) 11:04, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or rename - none of the above sources indicate that a nuclear program actually exists - just that Chavez wants to have one. I don't think that it's appropriate to have an article called "Venezuelan nuclear program" when we have no reliable sources that say that such a program exists. Perhaps the article could be renamed "Venezuelan nuclear controversy" or something like that. Agree with nominator that article is based on speculation & would need cleanup if decision is keep or move. Quasihuman (talk) 13:04, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: In the expansion made after the AfD nomination, a passage like this was added: "Venezuela and Iran have set up direct flights between Caracas and Tehran, with only one stop-over: Damascus. This is unusual because tourism is extremely small and commercial ties are not large. Passenger and cargo records are reportedly not maintained, and visas are not required on these flights", a passage that is solely insinuation. --Soman (talk) 15:16, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Delete - There are no reliable sources, merely speculative articles, with headings of the "Chavez wants to build . . ." type, none of which confirms that anything actually exists. There's possibly enough media speculation to justify Quasihuman's suggestion of renaming, but the article would need to be cleaned up, removing such POV comments as "a strange location for a dairy". Jimmy Pitt (talk) 21:57, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Venezuela-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:40, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.