Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Varin Mehta

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The result was delete. There is a clear consensus that he has not (yet) met the requirements of WP:NFOOTBALL or of the WP:GNG JohnCD (talk) 20:37, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Varin Mehta

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Contested PROD. Concern was Article about a footballer who fails WP:GNG and who has not played in a fully pro league. PROD was contested by the article's creator on the grounds that he has played in the Belgium Second Division and for reasons based on WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. However, the Second Division is not sourced as fully pro meaning the article fails WP:NSPORT. Sir Sputnik (talk) 20:01, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

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• Delete. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Mattythewhite (talk) 20:29, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
• Comment: On first reading it looks like the Belgian team have taken the guy on purely because of the fee coughed up by his gulliable diamond trader parents. "Belgian rules" indeed! The main claim to notability seems to be that he is one of relatively few (four) Indians to get a pro contract abroad. If this has generated coverage in the Indian or Belgian press then it might pass WP:GNG. Clavdia chauchat (talk) 09:57, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
• Comment: He has generated much hype and indian football fans knew him. Preetam040 (talk) 08:01, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
• Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 10:42, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

• Question: Okay how many reliable sources do we need to make him notable (passing WP:GNG). If you tell me I can gather some papers from India (and some from Belgium). --Arsenalkid700 (talk) 19:18, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

It's not a question of the number of sources, but the significance of those sources. If you can find anything that goes beyond routine sports journalism, he would pass WP:GNG. My research indicates that it does not exist, but don't let that stop you from looking. Sir Sputnik (talk) 18:16, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

• Keep - First of all he is the 4th indian to ply his trade in foreign league,it create awareness amongs the indian fans.And it was mention that he has not played in pro league if u see then many players like Saumik Dey ,Charan Rai have their pages who are playing in I-League then why not for varin because i think that Belgian Second Division is much professional than I-league and the Belgian Second Division is the second-highest division in the Belgian football league system after the Belgian Pro League .Secondly Varin is more popular than Saumik and charan...Apart from that Royal Antwerp F.C. is one of the oldest and popular club of belgium for whom he is playing and he is in first team.... Preetam040 (talk) 07:55, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

As I stated in the nomination, the comparison to I-League players is a WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS claim, which is never grounds for notability. That playing in the Belgian second division doesn't grant notability is a well established consensus, not to mention the fact that Mehta is yet to play in that league. His "debut" referred to in the article was a pre-season friendly. The fact that he is the fourth Indian play abroud is also not relevant, since there is no guideline that says it makes him inherently notable, and he has not received significant coverage because of it. Sir Sputnik (talk) 14:03, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

• Delete. The point is that he hasn't plied his trade, as he hasn't actually played. There are a lot of previous cases which have shown sitting on the bench is not an establishment of notability. Recreate in the future after he has played a professional league match. Cloudz679 06:14, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
• Delete I am sorry Preetam but I did look. Other than routine news there is nothing that states that Varin is notable. I agree with Cloudz. This article can be recreated anytime. --Arsenalkid700 (talk) 00:38, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

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