Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vanja Bulić (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep. (non-admin closure).Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 13:58, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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May not meet WP:AUTHOR. Although this author and film producer has produced works which have some coverage, may not meet WP:GNG, as most coverage appears to be on unreliable sources. Qxukhgiels (talk) 22:03, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Suspected bad faith nomination: the editor has just placed a comment on my shared ip page, from which this article was edited. the comment was about me supposedly "blanking" serbian film article, while i added pov tag (and a category). checking last nomination, which was relatively recent and retracted by nominator, testifies that motivation for this is not only bogus, but wastes community time. and yes, vanja bulic is a very well known journalist - just read last nomination. 213.198.221.171 (talk) 22:10, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

At the previous AfD nomination, the nominator did not give a good reason for it's deletion; he should have used WP policies and guidelines to support his claims. This is why that nomination was a bad faith nomination, but that does not make this one bad faith; I expressed a concern that this topic may not meet the notability guidelines listed above. As I've already told you, WP:NOTAGAIN is not a valid argument to use in deletion discussions.Qxukhgiels (talk) 20:07, 7 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

the previous nomination does not seem to be bad faith nomination; the nominator was not knowledgeable about the subject, and it was poorly sourced. your nomination seems to be in bad faith, because of its motivation, as explained, and also because the previous nomination had a discussion that refuted all your supposed points. thus, i highly suspect that you did not nominate this because of your issue as you claim (though you put supposedly supportive policies), but because you checked what articles were edited from ip that edited page serbian film, that you claimed was "blanking". either that, or it is a weird coincidence. in any case, i believe this is bad faith nomination, which has nothing to do with the merits of the subject of the article (which is, as can be easily seen from discussion before, both notable, and satisfies all the criteria that you claim are basis for deletion - both author, and reliable sources etc; but that is no surprising, since your motivation is in something elese apparently). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.198.221.171 (talk) 21:06, 7 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy keep disruptive nomination. Homework: read the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vanja Bulić first, or just fucking type his name in Google. No such user (talk) 08:04, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep notable author, works (like Pretty Village, Pretty Flame, many books) appear in many secondary reliable sources, many reliable sources in Serbian about him and his work as journalist, best known for cult series Crni Biseri from the 90s, editor of major Duga magazine etc. Everyone in Serbia knows him, and is well known in most of ex-SFRY. One of the 5 most well known journalists of Serbian origin, together with Aleksandar Tijanic, Milomir Marić, Miroslav Lazanski and Mira Adanja-Polak. LoncarLoncici (talk) 18:47, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: since the above argument is not valid per WP:AADD, I have struck it.-Qxukhgiels (talk) 21:40, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, but you're going to have to find verifiable sources to support these claims. Otherwise, your opinion will not be considered; you have used WP:ASSERTN, WP:MUST, and WP:ITEXISTS, which are not valid arguments to use in a deletion discussion.Qxukhgiels (talk)

Unstruck. You don't get to strike other people's comments, particularly not in a deletion debate where you were the nominator, and especially not for spurious reasons. It is the closer's business to weigh arguments in the debate. I'm inclined to launch you straight to ANI. No such user (talk) 06:58, 13 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The argument above, as I've already mentioned, relies on WP:AADD, so that is why I have struck it. Reporting me at ANI for this would accomplish little, if not nothing at all. Also, how about reading this.Qxukhgiels (talk) 21:02, 13 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Qxukhgiels, you should keep calm and point out issues with people's comments without interfering with them. It is the closing editor's job to weed them out, and if it's as obvious as you think, then there's no real downside in letting it play out in such an orderly fashion. Otherwise, you appear as if you are the moderator, which you are not. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 07:40, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 21:44, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Keep - Meets the guideline at WP:AUTHOR and WP:GNG. See [1] [2] [3] [4] [5]. The list just goes on. ΤheQ Editor ^Talk? 22:41, 15 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Strong keep - Quite a strange nomination, this, considering the wide range of points addressed in the discussion spawned from Safiel's first nomination, which he then quickly withdrew. As for WP:GNG, Bulić is all over Politika,[6] Serbian newspaper-of-record, and he's very prominent in other Serbian papers too. And this is without even going into his well-documented career as an author and his decade-long stint as a TV host of a very prominent programme Crni biseri.Zvonko (talk) 01:22, 17 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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