Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ursala Hudson

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 08:39, 2 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ursala Hudson[edit]

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Truthfully, this article is right on the border of notability. The more independent the source is from Hudson, the less she's mentioned; this is true of both the sources in the article and the ones I found on Google. I dream of horses (Contribs) (Talk) 03:32, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep. I agree that this is right on the border, I am informed by the sources below, which include passing mentions and interviews, but still I think there is just enough to keep.
  1. https://www.juneauempire.com/news/sisters-continue-weaving-teaching-after-mothers-death/
  2. https://www.nativeartsandcultures.org/ursala-hudson
  3. https://www.vogue.com/article/santa-fe-indian-market-designers-artists-preview
  4. https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/northwest/alaska-native-weaving-project-honors-survivors-of-violence/
  5. https://www.yesmagazine.org/social-justice/2022/09/19/native-alaska-culture-heritage CT55555(talk) 14:48, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Ursula Hudson is very well established, and the Wikipedia bio article is thoroughly cited. It's just a short article, but you have to start somewhere. Yuchitown (talk) 22:32, 23 January 2023 (UTC)Yuchitown[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting to allow discussion of presented sources. Being "established" does not necessarily imply notability, and citations in the article are insufficient if none are reliable, in-depth, or independent.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 04:19, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep, with the sources as given above, she's probably just past the bar for notability. the Vogue and Seattle Times ones seem the best. I'd perhaps include more focus on her advocacy for survivors of violence in the article, to help with gender bias here on Wiki. Oaktree b (talk) 15:37, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - She meets GNG based on the article sourcing and those put forward above, as well as others I'm finding in a WP:BEFORE. When analyzing her accomplishments as a emerging Native artist, I am impressed by the show at the Renwick which is part of the Smithsonian, and work (best in show) in the Washington State History Museum[1][2]; her show at the Center for Contemporary Art in Santa Fe (there needs to be an article on this institution), her residency at IAIA; her inclusion in the Santa Fe Indian Market which is highly competitive, very selective and keenly curated; her career support from the Native Arts and Cultures Foundation, and an award from the First Peoples Fund[3]. The Heard Museum has an artist file on her, and her work is included in the book Wearing the Wealth of the Land: Chilkat Robes and their Connection to Place (Princeton University Press, pgs. 185, 187)[4]. All of these establish significant validation of her notability within the realm of Native American arts. Her work can't really be measured by the New York-Paris-London-Dusseldorf art-marketplace world, while that may be the dominant commercial marketplace for art, it is not particularly inclusive of Native artists at all. She is a rising star and I am sure we will be hearing alot more about her in years to come. The article should be kept. Netherzone (talk) 04:55, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - can confirm that IAIA residency and Santa Fe Indian Market are strong indicators of notability Elinruby (talk) 05:54, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per CT55555. Twinkle1990 (talk) 14:06, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Keep - Article is thoroughly cited and she passes the minimum for GNG with the article as it is but with the additional sources provided by CT55555 there is no doubt the notability of the subject. WP:N --ARoseWolf 14:48, 31 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.