Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Uploaded astronaut

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The result was merge to Mind uploading. Sam Walton (talk) 10:01, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Uploaded astronaut[edit]

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A neologism of questionable popularity, cited from a single author. Staszek Lem (talk) 19:23, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, no evidence there's anything to this - David Gerard (talk) 15:24, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, but rename to something less neological, like "Mind uploading and spaceflight". It indeed seems like that author is the single one using that term - the subject however has enough coverage for it to be featured (e.g. see these: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5). --Fixuture (talk) 21:37, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Might as well start a new article under that name - David Gerard (talk) 11:30, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  - If you find reliable sources which discuss this concept, otherwise this will be WP:SYNTH: "a" + "bc". This current article is based solely on two blogs of the same person. Not to say that even the Golden Age of Science Fiction have already beaten the author mightily: plenty of stories how an alien starship arrives and then bam! aliens are 'uploaded' to the Earth without any boredom of sitting in a 'ship at all, in any forms: into your brain, into mechanical devices, into animals, etc., etc. Staszek Lem (talk) 21:43, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    - Well the sources I listed discuss exactly this concept. But as said they don't use the term "uploaded astronaut" hence my suggestion to rename it. Will further look into this later (probably this weekend) and maybe also dig up some more sources in addition to those listed above.

Not to say that even the Golden Age of Science Fiction have already beaten the author mightily: plenty of stories how an alien starship arrives and then bam! aliens are 'uploaded' to the Earth without any boredom of sitting in a 'ship at all, in any forms: into your brain, into mechanical devices, into animals, etc., etc.

Well he's not claiming to be the first having that idea (and mind you, it's no contest; the article actually doesn't even mention him). That's another reason for notability by the way. I also think that the "In science fiction" section could be expanded by quite a bit (or maybe even merged into the lede right away). Other than that I doubt that many writers of the Golden Age of Science Fiction had a concept close to nowadays "mind uploading" (the concept basically elaborated in co-ordinance with the technological development in the realm of IT and the neuroscientific advances [even though both aren't even close to making the concept of mind uploading feasible in the near future - it's about the imagination...applied in science fiction and elsewhere]). --Fixuture (talk) 22:30, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

re "technological development" - you are talking about a specific implementation. Implementation may vary, but the basic idea is the same: mind changes its incarnation in other location. And I fail to see what's the nontrivial difference: whether it is a spaceship or the very destination or a computer game or whatever.Staszek Lem (talk) 01:29, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Science fiction-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 05:02, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Science-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 05:02, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Merge with the mind uploading page given that this information would be given the best weight as a few sentences or something over there CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 15:45, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —☮JAaron95 ^Talk 13:08, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Merge selectively to mind uploading using sources like those found by Fixuture, but use general terms rather than this neologism. Mind uploading is such a huge paradigm-shifting subject that it allows for any number of "mind uploading and _____" applications/problematics/hypotheticals. So there may be a good cause to create Mind uploading applications, mind uploading and society, or some better-titled article at some point -- this doesn't seem like the basis for it though. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 18:38, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —☮JAaron95 ^Talk 11:04, 7 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect or maybe merge to mind uploading. Seems like a legit search term, and this is a legit application of the concept. I'm not strictly opposed to a merge, but I think it would be better to add a brief summary from a better source than those currently in the article. kurzweilai.net doesn't strike me as the best available source. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 06:47, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. This article doesn't contain any real information, just the idea that several hypothetical technologies that don't exist and won't exist any time soon could be applied to space travel. I'd suggest merging it into something, but there's so little information here beyond the sources, that there's just not much to merge. ---ssd (talk) 20:39, 12 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with mind uploading. Artw (talk) 03:01, 14 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.