Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Uplace

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The result was USERFIED to User:WjI-kop/Uplace. Technical 13 (talk) 12:55, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Uplace[edit]

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This article is about a "planned shopping mall" and violates WP:NOTCRYSTALBALL. Technical 13 (talk) 12:53, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - per nom, WP:CRYSTAL and WP:TOOSOON. ukexpat (talk) 14:39, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Belgium-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:53, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Shopping malls-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:53, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Editor's view: it is quite a story which is quite important in Belgium. See the newspapers... I'll add it tomorrow. --WjI-kop (talk) 16:51, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

~~Delete~~ Userfy This mall doesn't exist, and while it is possible that the speculation in 2013 about a future mall would be of interest to readers in 10 years, I think this is not the case here. At the same time, the planning for such a mall is an event, one to which WP:NOT#NEWSPAPER and WP:Notability (events) applies. The WP:BEFORE guideline states at point B6, "Check if there are interlanguage links, also in the sidebar, which may lead to more developed and better sourced articles." The Netherlands Wikipedia article shows that this is a big news story, and it has potential to be an encyclopedia article. WP:Notability (events) states, "The topic of an article should be notable, or 'worthy of notice'; that is, 'significant, interesting, or unusual enough to deserve attention or to be recorded'. IMO, this is an event whose story for an encyclopedia is not now timely, and will continue to be a matter of breaking news until it is known that the mall has been or will not be built. WP:Notability (events) states, "Editors are encouraged to write about breaking news events in Wikinews instead of in Wikipedia." Unscintillating (talk) 20:23, 25 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - the mall itself is not notable. What may be notable, are the planning approval processes and any controversy relating to these. Flat Out let's discuss it 06:51, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Important: This is just what I wanted to tell, but I didn't have the time yet. I have edited it (and will edit in the future to improve the English). --WjI-kop (talk) 07:14, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  - While that is all fine and good, the first sentence of the article still reads, "Uplace is a planned shopping mall near Vilvoorde, Belgium, just above Brussels' orbital road." If it is about the controversy, then make the article about the controversy. Right now it still reads in favor of WP:NOTCRYSTAL. Unscintillating has also raised a lot of other good arguments and this article may just be WP:TOOSOON in which case you, as the creator of the article may want to request WP:USERFICATION or that the article be bumped to WP:AFC which I likely would not oppose. Technical 13 (talk) 11:27, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    - I hereby request userfication for this article. --WjI-kop (talk) 12:24, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I support userfication. Unscintillating (talk) 12:43, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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