Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Uche Nwosu

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. There is no consensus whether the subject passes WP:NPOL, and there is not enough discussion to see if the subject passes WP:GNG. (non-admin closure) wumbolo ^^^ 09:23, 21 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Uche Nwosu[edit]

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Non notable, doesn't fly WP:GNG Mahveotm (talk) 14:41, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Mahveotm (talk) 14:44, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Nigeria-related deletion discussions. Mahveotm (talk) 14:44, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: I interpret being the chief of staff and a commissioner to a state government as passing WP:NPOLITICIAN. Believe me, if you are not notable you won't be having major publishing houses covering you like 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 all in the first page of Google search. I admire your work Mahveotm, but I feel like this nomination was a little too hasty. HandsomeBoy (talk) 17:12, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Being the chief of staff and a commissioner to a state government does not passes WP:NPOLITICIAN, these are appointed position not elected ones. It even states that Just being an elected local official, or an unelected candidate for political office, does not guarantee notability. And mentioned by press houses (albeit not independently) because of a political ambition also does not passes WP:GNG. I'm not pro delete - I assume you already know, and did a WP:BEFORE before nominating. Mahveotm (talk) 08:51, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Like the United States, Nigeria practice a federal system of government, which implies government powers being shared across federal, state and local authorities. According to WP:POLITICIAN Politicians and judges who have held international, national or sub-national (statewide/provincewide) office, and members or former members of a national, state or provincial legislature, what this means is that unelected state and federal appointees could be presumed notable depending on the significance of their office. The chief of staff of a state is a consistent respected authority present in all states in Nigeria, and solely responsible for the affairs of all staffs in a state. I consider it in the same class as the chief justice of a state in terms of the routine coverage received. He is not a local official, but a state official. He is also a former commissioner in the state.

When I have access to my PC, I'll reply you on GNG, but personally it isn't even necessary since I think NPOLITICIAN has been met. Even though my next statement sounds WP:CRYSTALBALL, I will still state it, when a sitting governor handpicks a candidate as his successor in eastern Nigeria, he usually have a 80% chance of winning, and that has led to many independent analysis by the media and questioning of their democracy by political analyst since he is related to the governor by marriage.

Let us see what other AFD commentators think. HandsomeBoy (talk) 10:48, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Don't you have any pity for our eyes with that fluo text?

-The Gnome (talk) 20:43, 13 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

haha..fixed it to what I initially wantedHandsomeBoy (talk) 00:09, 14 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 12:45, 29 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Nosebagbear (talk) 11:12, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - as per WP:NPOLITICIAN AND WP:GNG. Terrible nomination, nominating a state official! A simple WP:BEFORE and reference to Wiki policy would have substantiated the notability of the subject rather than wasting the community's time. Senegambianamestudy (talk) 06:33, 7 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You shouldn't go around belittling people at AfD to achieve a point, you should also tell us HOW he passes GNG and what criterion of nPOLITICIAN was met as this is not a voting process. The above discussion with HandsomeBoy is an example of how to participate at an AfD. Mahveotm (talk) 05:11, 13 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - I am not "belittling" anyone. I am addressing this poor nomination without regard for Wiki policy — some of which I pointed you to. I suggest you familiarize yourself with Wiki policies especially WP:BEFORE—before nominating any article for AfD. Poor nominations wastes the community's time. Believe me, some editors who dislike poor nominations might have used stronger language than I have. I exercised restrain here. For your info, your condescending remarks may be viewed as a personal attack. I was commenting on this poor nomination but you turned it around and started commenting on me. Please read Wiki policies before bringing any more articles to Afd. Senegambianamestudy (talk) 13:50, 14 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Being chief of staff to a state-level politician is not an automatic free pass over WP:NPOL in and of itself, and the sourcing being cited here is not adequate to get him over WP:GNG. One of the three sources is primary, while another reads suspiciously more like PR bumf than journalism — and at least as of the time I'm writing this, the third takes me not to any content about the subject that I can even evaluate for its reliability or lack thereof, but to the confrontational splash page of a cyberhacker group. This is not the correct kind of sourcing to make a person notable because "media coverage exists", if what he's potentially notable for isn't an automatic guarantee of inclusion. Bearcat (talk) 15:34, 13 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

What about being a former state commissioner in addition to that? HandsomeBoy (talk) 00:09, 14 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep since WP:NPOLITICIAN accepts politicians who have held national office and, in practice, we interpret this, at least for the United States of America, to include all Deputy Chiefs of Staff, e.g. Michael Deaver, Zachary Fuentes, Henson Moore, and so on. Accepting as notable the Deputy Chief of Staff position for American political appointments but not for Nigerian ones would be unpardonable. -The Gnome (talk) 20:43, 13 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz ^Humbug! 21:22, 13 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Since his position is considered within the cabinet by the rules of Imo state, and members of a cabinet in a state in a federal republic are notable. True, we lack articles on most of them, and in fact on most cabinet ministers world-wide, possible at present, and especially if you go back to 1980, let alone 1950, but that is a different issue. I do have to point out that what US federal offices grant notability is not at all relevant to weather a specific office grants notability at the sub-national level in another country.John Pack Lambert (talk) 02:39, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.