Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Troop 41

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The result was keep. PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 23:43, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Troop 41[edit]

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Non-notable group. Assertion of notability is made, but a search at Billboard for this group finds a page where they are claimed never to have charted at all. Frank | talk 02:23, 12 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I am also nominating the following related page because it is the song claimed to have charted but no references can be found to support; indeed, even if it had reached #76, it's doubtful the song would be notable enough for an entry anyway:

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. — —Tom Morris (talk) 06:27, 12 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep but merge song to band article. The Billboard wesbite is missing a lot of chart info since it was redesigned. The Allmusic entry for the band, with chart info supplied by Billboard, confirms the hit single - [1]. Further info: SPIN, News & Observer, Billboard.--Michig (talk) 07:30, 12 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Author Keep Even if the Billboard link were dead, the paper magazine would still confirm the chart position. I don't make these things up. Chubbles (talk) 16:04, 12 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I hope you don't think I was suggesting anything was made up. I had a reference (linked above) that explicitly claimed the artist hasn't charted yet. That's quite a bit more convincing than "I can't find anything". And still, the song itself doesn't appear notable, even if it charted at #76. Frank | talk 00:16, 14 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am fine with merging the song into the parent article. It's an unfortunate side-effect of Billboard's site design that it defaults to a message that says "this artist hasn't charted yet" if the query returns no results. But their public database is not complete. Chubbles (talk) 18:42, 14 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I found a billboard link showing Troop 41's song charted. For reference, editors should consider using billboard.biz when searching for artists and whether or not their singles charted. It is the paid version of billboard.com and contains a far better archive of a song's chart history. Here is the link: http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/charts/chart-search-results/singles/11938478 . It shows the song at 98 on the billboard hot 100. AnnRicks (talk)

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