Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tony Stetson

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The result was keep. Majorly (hot!) 16:09, 21 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tony Stetson[edit]

Non notable wrestler, one of the references provided is trivial as can be seen here. His name appearing on five pages is not a non-trivial source. The other book can't be searched properly on Amazon or on Google books, but based on the information in the article it isn't a non trivial source either. Fails WP:BIO. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 17:44, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. The book you refer to claims he won at least two titles in a major promotion, Extreme Championship Wrestling, and was provided as a reference which as least covers the "Championship and accomplishment" section. MadMax 19:08, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment A bit of honesty wouldn't go amiss, he didn't "win" any titles in a major promotion. He "won" titles in 1993 when ECW was known as Eastern Championship Wrestling and it was nothing but a small independent promotion. The later success of the promotion does not transfer backwards to somehow make Tony Stetson more notable, especially when he hasn't been the subject of multiple non-trivial sources. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 22:49, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Regardless of the name change, his career in ECW did not stop at 1993 and the lineage of the ECW tag team championship does include Eastern Championship Wrestling. I'd rather not debate this point (one could easily make this point of the WWF prior to the 1980s), however I provided a published book which supported the claim of several championship reigns in the promotion. I don't see how I've been "dishonest" in this point and I don't feel a presonal attack is nessessary (in regards to your comments at the World Xtreme Wrestling discussion). MadMax 23:07, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Simply listing a reference at the bottom of a page without actually attributing any information to it is dubious in my opinion, especially if the reference is a book or other offline source. As I stated ECW was not a major promotion when he won titles in it, despite your assertion to the contrary. Please provide multiple independent non trivial sources. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 21:31, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Again, with all due respect, you seem to be confusing fame with nobility. Prior tag team champions (excluding ECW mainstays) included Kevin Sullivan, Eddie Gilbert and Tom Brandi prior to the name change. Former heavyweight included Jimmy Snuka (the first recognized champion), Don Muraco and Tito Santana as well. MadMax 03:28, 21 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment No, you appear to be confusing someone who is important to wrestling fans to someone who is notable by Wikipedia guidelines, despite constant requests not to. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 12:21, 21 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, seems OK to me. Stifle (talk) 21:26, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep He was one of the big players in the north-eastern indie scene for a while and was part of Raven's original "nest" in 1995. I have fond memories of watching Tommy Dreamer kick the crap out of him on low-quality imported VHS. ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹^Speak 12:17, 21 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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