Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Theosophy in Scandinavia

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus‎ between keeping the article and merging it into Theosophy. After sources were presented and it was demonstrated that secondary coverage exists, editors appear to be split between keeping (and possibly renaming) and merging, both of which have some plausible backing in policies and guidelines. Further discussion on a merger can be handled in a standard merge proposal, while further discussion on a move can be handled in a standard requested move discussion. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 01:43, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Theosophy in Scandinavia[edit]

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Overly promotional with only primary sources. No independent reliable secondary sources cover this topic. Psychologist Guy (talk) 12:14, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Philosophy, Religion, Denmark, Finland, Norway, and Sweden. Owen× ☎ 14:48, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete No secondary sources about this topic seem to exist. Big Money Threepwood (talk) 00:26, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. A quick, cursory search found a number of sources: twenty-minute academic presentation on theosophy in Sweden, there's this article on the founding of Teosofiska Samfundet i Skandinavien (the Theosophy Association of Scandinavia), focused on the role (or lack thereof) of Viktor Rydberg, here's another academic article on theosophy in Sweden in the 1890s, and Western Esotericism in Scandinavia (ed. Henrik Bogdan and Olav Hammer), an academic title, seems to have eight (or six, depending on your definition of Scandinavia) relevant chapters, four (or three) focused on theosophy in the relevant countries. And so on. Whatever the issues are, I don't think it's that no reliable secondary sources exist. (I know nothing about theosophy, though.) /Julle (talk) 12:42, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, per the sources found by Julle, particularly Western Esotericism in Scandinavia, demonstrating that the topic has been covered in independent reliable secondary sources. Jfire (talk) 16:44, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge. There are no other articles covering Theosophy in a particular geographic area (e.g. Theosophy in North America). Although there are good sources covering Theosophy in Scandinavia, I think that their content would fit better on the Theosophy article itself, perhaps in a section discussing the movement's geographic differences. Most of the existing content has a bit of a promotional tone which would not have a home on the Theosophy page, but if the article were expanded with the mentioned sources, I think that their content would fit best there. Uffda608 (talk) 11:09, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NotAGenious (talk) 15:18, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Move and rename (and keep, I suppose). Having thought about this, I think both the article and the sources show there's enough content for separate articles, and I don't see how the article on theosophy in general would benefit from a long section on Denmark, specifically. But while there's an a good list of sources for theosophy which does take place in Scandinavia, they tend to focus on the individual countries. Very little here is actually on theosophy in Scandinavia – rather, we have sources on the individual subsets of Scandinavia. This means that we could build in article based on them, properly covering the topic – but why, if that's not how our sources treat it? I think it makes more sense to have articles on theosophy in Sweden, theosophy in Denmark and so on, based on how the sources I've located deal with the subject. So since this mainly deals with Denmark, I suggest we let it focus on that part and move it to Theosophy in Denmark instead. /Julle (talk) 18:17, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 12:46, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per Uffda608 too.

SpacedFarmer (talk) 16:00, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Move and rename (in keeping with the above case presented by Julle). Nathantx (talk) 02:23, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per Uffda608. RadioactiveBoulevardier (talk) 10:52, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.