Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Vamps

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. postdlf (talk) 16:30, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Vamps[edit]

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No evidence of notability. New band with their first album yet to be released. ErikvanB (talk) 15:45, 22 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000^(talk) 17:36, 22 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000^(talk) 17:36, 22 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Oppose – I personally believe this deletion should be relisted at least a month later because you really don't know how they're going to do with their new single "Can We Dance". The EP was #1 on the UK iTunes Charts yesterday. 68.44.51.49 (talk) 20:21, 22 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. No sources for anything in the article. The Vamps have not released an album yet. From reading the article,they are a just a bunch of guys who have done some covers of other artists on YouTube. BeckiGreen (talk) 03:21, 23 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. No evidence of notability? What about [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10]. So there are sources available. Does anyone have a policy-based reason for deletion? --Michig (talk) 12:12, 23 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - The nominator and others in favor of deletion merely looked at the page itself and did not make the good-faith effort to see how the page could be improved, as Michig did. --DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 14:45, 23 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Doomsdayer520, I did Google the Vamps and all I could find we're a bunch of fan sites, which are not really good sources. So I most certainly made a good faith effort. The Vamps are only playing for Selena Gomez for two nights. The Vamps are supposedly releasing an EP at the end of September, and supposedly releasing an album sometime next year. Last night I couldn't find any sources that were reliable about their upcoming EP and album. I thought the users who want to keep the page were the ones who have to show proof of notability? Since I did look for sources for the Vamps, what did you do Doomsdayer520, besides vote keep? BeckiGreen (talk) 02:04, 24 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I read through the ten online journalistic articles located by Michig who apparently knows how to search fully and found a few more online articles of my own though they didn't add much to Michig's pile. I found those articles, and Michig's previous vote, to be convincing evidence of enough notability to merit an article (however thin it may be) per long-standing WP policy, and voted accordingly. Sorry about the accusation of no good-faith effort on your part, but that concern definitely still holds true for the nominator per WP:BEFORE. --DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 17:13, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Non-notable, and appears to be a case of TOOSOON. Their single/album is still TBA. Once those are out and if they become notable then a page should be created. Caffeyw (talk) 04:20, 25 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - sufficient coverage (per the above sources) to satisfy WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO #1. Gong show 19:04, 25 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Above "sources" include 4 from the very same website, couple are announcements, and one is a copy from another website that was already listed. I also think it's telling from in the articles, that they attracted "hundreds" people, that in and of itself shows the band is not very notable yet. Might they go places? Sure, but for Wiki this is WP:TOOSOON and they lack notability. Caffeyw (talk) 06:32, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per some (but not all) sources found by Michig and Doomsdayer520, other hits found by searching for "the vamps" chart single, and by this which confirms they hit #1 on the UK iTunes download chart, which I interpret as being a valid (though not brilliant) chart for criteria 2 of WP:NMUSIC via WP:SINGLEVENDOR "some charts representing the home country of the artist or composer ... can be included if no other suitable charts can be located." Also they're on the Billboard "Next Big Sound" chart here. Not superb coverage, but I think there's enough to be notable. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 10:48, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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