Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Thricennial Festival of Kalahurkus

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete, a small gathering of friends in a backyard, author has asserted inability to provide evidence of notability. Deiz talk 03:09, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Thricennial Festival of Kalahurkus[edit]

Ok, I seriously do not see the notability in the festival, but I didn't want to immediately tag it with a speedy delete. So the reason is: Notability of festival is not notable. Userpie^{talk to me!} 00:39, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Question Erm, I assume you mean, "Festival is not notable?" If the notability of the festival is notable, then I go, "Wha?" LaughingVulcan 00:46, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh yes, fix'd. Userpie^{talk to me!} 01:01, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete So this guy has a party three times a year in his backyard? How is that notable? Fails WP:ATT and WP:NOTE. --Charlene 00:47, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, and Delete, ~~speedy under A7 if possible.~~ Utterly unremarkable "group", article fails notability utterly. I'd recommend a friendly note on the creator's page, also. LaughingVulcan 00:54, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Note: Withdrew speedy opinion request, per article creator below asking about time. LaughingVulcan 01:57, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

While it is true that most of the world does not care about this festival, it is also true that it has become a major part of graduate life at the Math Department at the University of Texas, Austin. As a recreational activity, it deserves to stay on Wikipedia. For example, an article already exists for the game of flip cup, which is merely a drinking game. Not everyone cares about flip cup, but it's a recreational activity that people may be curious about. In the same manner, prospective graduate students or others may wonder what is the Thricennial Festival of Kalahurkas. This article serves that purpose.Salmanhb 00:59, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's not that no one cares, it's whether its notable or not. Userpie^{talk to me!} 01:01, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It seems there are many festivals on Wikipedia already. I am not sure what makes them more notable than this one. I understand certain festivals are massive gatherings and obviously warrant notability. But that cannot be the only criterion. Granted this is a small festival among a collection of people in Austin, but I am unsure on why that disqualifies it being notable.Salmanhb 01:06, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You may want to consult Wikipedia:Notability, which is the guideline which establishes notability on Wikipedia. LaughingVulcan 01:15, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the link to Wikipedia:Notability. It seems that the major issue is that I do not have independent sources to verify the existence, attendance or significance of the festival. As I say below, I am not an organizer nor an attendee (as of yet). I am expecting others who know more about the festival to contribute and add this other information. But one cannot expect that to happen instantaneously after I start the article. My intention was to set up an article and then have others more qualified than myself contribute and flush it. I thought this was in the spirit of Wikipedia.Salmanhb 01:30, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It is worth noting that this festival is still in its infancy, though over a hundred people have already attended. Many festivals start as small gatherings, but they blossom into something much larger. There is nothing to preclude this festival from following a similar path.Salmanhb 01:22, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. No sources are provided and there are no Google hits for this event. This sounds like a private gathering not open to the public. --Metropolitan90 01:13, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I literally just started this entry about an hour ago. I got tired of typing and did not write down any references. As far as Google goes, I am not the organizer and shouldn't be held responsible for the organizer not advertising. It is in fact a public event, but spreads mostly through word of mouth.Salmanhb 01:18, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I should note that I have never attended a single festival. I have just been told about it and thought it warranted a Wikipedia entry.Salmanhb 01:33, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There's still time to source it if you REALLY think you can save the article. Userpie^{talk to me!} 01:40, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have any sources besides the email I received. I am just surprised that an article won't even survive a few days so that people can add to it. Frankly, I don't want to fight this to the death. My feeling is that an article about a small festival is worthy of surviving more than a few hours.Salmanhb 01:43, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
On the other hand, if you're insisting on deleting it ASAP, that's fine. I will just try to get all the information up and ready and try reposting once I have some sources.Salmanhb 01:47, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. This is an Articles for Deletion discussion, which usually lasts five days. The original nominator said that he didn't want to immediately tag it for speedy deletion (if he had done so, the article potentially might have been gone in a few minutes). So you do have "a few days", but if you want to turn the tide in favor of keeping the article, you are better off improving the article sooner rather than later. --Metropolitan90 01:57, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. Salmanhb 02:13, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.