Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Shadowlands

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Deltora Quest 2. (non-admin closure) Kharkiv07 (T) 01:25, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Shadowlands[edit]

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A bit difficult to search for since "Shadowlands" is a fictional name that's commonly used, but I'm not turning up references that make this title appear to be notable per WP:NBOOKS. Mikeblas (talk) 14:47, 5 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Stubify - The book does exist and a number of other articles point to it. The book does exist as part of what appears to be a WP:N series. - Pmedema (talk) 15:13, 5 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Question. What does "Stubify" mean? -- Mikeblas (talk) 13:01, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

- WP:STUBIFY - sorry for not linking that... - Pmedema (talk) 18:24, 7 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:16, 9 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:16, 9 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to author and or simply keep as there's nothing to vehemently suggest deleting. SwisterTwister talk 05:57, 10 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Upmerge to the series page - There is no clear sense that anything beyond the plot summary as part of the larger scope of the series, Sadads (talk) 15:14, 11 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 00:31, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Deltora Quest (series) or Deltora Quest 2. Individual books do not inherit notability from the series themselves being notable, especially when you have a series that is known for having a fairly large amount of books, which the Deltora Quest series as a whole does. This could redirect to the specific Deltora Quest 2, however I note that this page lacks coverage in reliable sources to show where this trilogy is specifically notable outside of the main series. Just as individual books do not inherit notability, the trilogies or sagas that occur within long running series also do not inherit notability and the main reason for the trilogy page to have an article would be to decrease the load from the main series page, although I think that this information could mostly be summed up fairly well. However that's not the focus of this AfD, the specific book is and I can find nothing to show that this individual book has received any coverage in independent or reliable sources per WP:RS. This is pretty common when you have series with a large amount of books because there's usually just too many for most outlets to review. It can happen, but it's usually with overwhelmingly notable series like Diary of a Wimpy Kid where the release of the books are a major event. Chapter books like Deltora Quest usually get released with little fanfare because they're released at such a breakneck pace. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 13:14, 16 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Sam Sailor ^Talk! 13:30, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Incorporate into Deltora Quest 2. I'm not normally one who likes to see pages deleted for any reason but I'd make an exception in this case. A check of the series page indicates there is more plot summary information listed there than on this page. I agree that the three books in the series were released in quick succession all around the novella or short-novel length. In fact Austlit lists a later publication of the three books in the one volume in 2007, totaling 373pp, which would lead you to believe that is their natural state. So I'd suggest taking the extra information from this page and adding to the series article. Perry Middlemiss (talk) 22:00, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.