Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Roads

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The result was Speedy Keep. As nominator, I have withdrawn this nomination. All editors commenting here have supported keep. Donald Albury 16:15, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Roads[edit]

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Not notable. The only mention of the neighborhood that I can find that is not a blog, real estate listing site or pure advertising site is a newspaper article mentioning that a church hosting a festival is in "the Roads". Donald Albury 20:13, 19 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - An extremely difficult search term as "The roads" is a common phrase. However, just doing a search of "The Roads" and its founder Brickell Hammock, I found very significant coverage on just that extremely narrow search term. [1][2]. It's a bona fide historic Miami neighborhood.--Oakshade (talk) 00:00, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: this is one of those articles I call a "real-time" article, one which is all well and true but impossible to find "references" for and which should be allowed to exist on accepted truth. Daniel Christensen (talk) 03:44, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Florida-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 01:54, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: It's one of the city recognized neighborhoods, and also has an extensive article. Unlike many of the other "neighborhood" articles for Miami which are either too short, not legitimate, and/or without sources, I believe The Roads has credentials to stay. --Comayagua99 (talk) 17:24, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Please, if you have found reliable sources, add them to article. Saying there are reliable sources without citing them doesn't help much. BTW, I searched on '"The Roads" Miami', and found only one newspaper article. Without knowing the connection to the Brickells, I had no reason to search for that. Oh, and I don't think the founder was Brickell Hammock; the hammock was named after William Barnwell Brickell and his family. -- Donald Albury 23:41, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

WP:N does not require sources to be in the article, just that they exist. --Oakshade (talk) 02:52, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

But how can anyone check the sources if they are not cited? WP:Verifiability does require that reliable sources be cited for any statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged. -- Donald Albury 11:11, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If the Miami neighborhoods aren't notable, perhaps all the Tampa neighborhoods should be deleted also?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Tampa_neighborhoods

Changing to Keep. I've seen enough now to change my mind. I believe the notability of this neighborhood has been established (at least as much as many other neighborhood articles in WP). -- Donald Albury 11:11, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: lol since you are the nominator, and the only one who said delete, and now you're changing your decision to keep, doesn't that automatically make the decision keep and end the nomination? Daniel Christensen (talk) 15:02, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Probably not. Welcome to bureaucracy! - Marc Averette (talk) 15:36, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'd close this as "Withdrawn by nominator" but as I participated in the discussion, I prefer not to.--Oakshade (talk) 15:49, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.