Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Reeths-Puffer Marching Band

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎. Daniel (talk) 22:53, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Reeths-Puffer Marching Band[edit]

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High school marching bands are not notable and this appears to be no exception with routine local and non-independent or irrelevant sources. Bensci54 and I both redirected the page to be reverted by the creator. Both WikiOriginal-9 and Voorts declined AFD submission, not sure why Timtrent approved it in such a self-promotional and unencylopedically written/sourced form. Reywas92^Talk 22:07, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians, Music, and Michigan. voorts (talk/contributions) 22:17, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: One has to love nominations with a bit of snark in them 😈. I have a firm personal policy of steadfast neutrality at articles I accepted at AFC. I follow the guidance that a draft must, in my view, have a better than 50% chance of surviving an immediate deletion process. This is an immediate deletion process and I await the community's view. If I was mistaken then I will learn from it If I was not then you will learn from it, But, whatever transpires, I really think you might learn not to be snarky when you nominate something for deletion. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 22:22, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not really trying to be snarky, but I don't think there's a single other high school marching band article on Wikipedia for good reason. This is of interest only to participants and clearly fails WP:CLUB and the few independent sources fail WP:AUD. Even without an article for Reeths-Puffer High School, individual student groups at scondary schools are not something we need standalone pages for and virtually never pass AFD. Reywas92^Talk 00:52, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It appears that this one is unlikely to pass, too. But that is what AfD is for, and we shall still see what happens. If you weren't trying then snark came naturally. You were not lacking in civility, not exactly, but you get an A+ from me for what must be natural snarkiness. It is the article that you are nominating, not the reviewer. I'm perfectly content to have a mistake demonstrated to me, but I do prefer it to be demonstrated with no edge to the demonstration. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 09:03, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: As I noted in declining this at AfC, the only RS providing SIGCOV is the MLive article. I have been unable to find additional RSes via TWL or Google. voorts (talk/contributions) 22:22, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: As someone deeply invested in the marching arts, from drum corps to winter guard, I can say for certain that no high school marching band in the world is notable. There is not enough coverage to sustain a completely independent page from the parent article. I oppose a redirect. Why? I Ask (talk) 23:01, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: poor-quality promotional article with bad sourcing; band itself is not notable, and the search term seems rather unlikely to me. page creator seems obviously connected to the subject. Darling ☔ (talk · contribs) 14:36, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: As one of the people who attempted to redirect this back to the article on the high school, I see no reason this article needs to exist. Bensci54 (talk) 17:23, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - the high school I attended 50 years ago won the 1920s version of a national high school band competition so many years in a row, they disbanded the contest and gave them the traveling trophy. The band director at the time was hired away by the University of Michigan where he was director of bands for over 20 years - and they are not notable. And it stands to reason that if the school itself is not notable, than an individual student activity wouldn't be either. 4.37.252.50 (talk) 21:02, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.