Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Quarry Gallery

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. So this was an obvious COI contribution by a user who had created a totally spammy version earlier, and never disclosed their COI. The AfD has three "delete" votes, including the one that doesn't say "delete" and the one by the nominator; there are no keep votes, except a comment about sourcing, which was addressed. This didn't need to be relisted. Drmies (talk) 00:08, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Quarry Gallery[edit]

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A previous article by the WP:SPA editor about this stone retail company was tagged by Vexations and speedy-deleted. The present instance is sourced largely to press releases (including a Forbes India "Brand Connect" item) and their echoes, along with a posting on fashionfad about an associated event. Searches find further primary postings, such as this in Vogue India, but I am not seeing evidence that this firm has attained notability. AllyD (talk) 09:05, 30 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. AllyD (talk) 09:05, 30 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. AllyD (talk) 09:05, 30 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The sources do not meet our requirements for independence and reliability. For something like prnewswire.com that's obvious; that's a press release. For other sources, that may not be so clear. Consider [1], and note how the website doesn't let you copy/paste the message at the bottom: "This story is provided by NewsVoir. ANI will not be responsible in any way for the content of this article. (ANI/NewsVoir). NewsVoir, (https://www.newsvoir.com/) is a company that produces press releases. [2] Architectural Digest has the same problem: "Published by The Quarry" , it's an advertisement, not an editorial. Vexations (talk) 10:30, 30 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - I found multiple sources on that specific company. Except for NZ Herald, all the other sources are from renowned magazines like AD, Vogue India,Forbes India(Paid Content), Bold Outline,Verve etc. I am confused if those are independent and reliable or not.Mommmyy (talk) 14:49, 31 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The NZ Herald / Bay of Plenty Times item is mentioning "Te Puna Quarry Park & venue 'The Gallery'" in New Zealand rather than this Mumbai firm; the AD item is a passing mention of another designer using materials sourced from this firm; the Vogue India item is straplined "Published by Quarry" so is primary; the Forbes India item footer says "The pages slugged ‘Brand Connect’ are equivalent to paid-for advertisements and are not written and produced by Forbes India journalists" so is primary; the Bold Outline item is an advertorial about an event which concludes by inviting readers to call the firm for an appointment; the Verve item is a brief photo-piece about an event, again with advertorial tone ("Against the backdrop of luxury marble, guests relaxed over wine and hors d’oeuvres, and marvelled at the granite and onyx available at The Quarry."); none of which, for me, exceed trivial coverage at WP:CORPDEPTH. AllyD (talk) 15:34, 31 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 15:18, 6 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete WP:NCORP requires multiple sources (at least two) of deep or significant coverage with in-depth information *on the company* and (this bit is important!) containing "Independent Content". "Independent content", in order to count towards establishing notability, must include original and independent opinion, analysis, investigation, and fact checking that are clearly attributable to a source unaffiliated to the subject. That means much more than articles found in "reliable sources" or "independent sources" or purported "renowned magazines", it means nothing that relies entirely on company information or announcements or interviews, etc. None of the references in the article meet the criteria. I have been unable to find any references that meet NCORP criteria, topic fails WP:NCORP. HighKing⁺⁺ 18:59, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Bobherry Talk Edits 17:37, 14 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.