Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Eastern Kingdoms

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Sandstein 06:21, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Eastern Kingdoms[edit]

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Location within a game, article is pure WP:GAMEGUIDE, no sources exist. Redirection is inappropriate due to potential real world meanings of the title. Deprodded. Abductive (reasoning) 17:54, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I believe the subject is best known as a fictional location in books by notable author Raymond Feist and not from a game as nom suggests. The closest I could find to a guideline on fictional locations is this [1], which is only a proposed guideline. Gruntler (talk) 18:53, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The fictional location was first in the novels by Raymond Feist then in the game. It is one of the primary settings of Talon of the Silver Hawk. Though far less popular, it is more important in the series of novels than Degobah is to the Star Wars series of films. LA (T) @ 21:09, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - that's not why we have an article on Dagobah. That article exists because Star Wars has penetrated pop culture to the level that people can know the name "Dagobah" without having seen any of the movies; it can be used as a cultural reference for "remote location", "unpleasant location" or "place of training". That's what independent notability is all about, and the Eastern Kingdoms doesn't pass that test. - DustFormsWords (talk) 02:53, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep or merge - The above comments make me think sourcing and expansion are a reasonable possibility. If improvement is not forthcoming, a merger would certainly be appropriate. --ThaddeusB (talk) 23:39, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm seeing references to the Eastern Kingdoms in relation to World of Warcraft and many other topics, but not this usage. I would be happy to reconsider my nomination if sources that analyse these Eastern Kingdoms in any sort of substantive way were presented. You know, I do try to meet WP:BEFORE prior to making my nominations, and I am afraid I didn't find anything worth saying in an encyclopedia. Abductive (reasoning) 02:14, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Tim Song (talk) 00:15, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - This information is appropriately presented at the Midkemia article. There is no evidence (or assertion) that the Eastern Kingdoms are notable indepdendently of the world of Midkemia, and thus a stand-alone article is not warranted. - DustFormsWords (talk) 02:51, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps merge into Triagia?--Pink Bull 00:40, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've nominated Triagia for deletion as well. It has no secondary sources at all. Abductive (reasoning) 01:11, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, \ Backslash Forwardslash / (talk) 06:13, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Non-notable list of fictional places. Doesn't warrant its own article. GreyWyvern^⚒ 17:58, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete many pieces of fiction feature "Eastern Kingdoms" 76.66.197.2 (talk) 04:59, 13 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete nonnotable, consisting of nothing but in-universe material, and also per DustFormsWords. A redirect is inappropriate because many places can be considered "the eastern kingdoms". Them From Space 19:02, 13 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.