Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Commercial, Herne Hill

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. TonyBallioni (talk) 15:26, 11 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The Commercial, Herne Hill[edit]

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Not a notable pub. The only independent reference is a paragraph blurb in a listing of many London pubs, and I don't think it is a credible reference for the claim that the pub is "of special historic interest". power~enwiki (π, ν) 05:38, 25 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. MT Train^Talk 06:40, 25 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. MT Train^Talk 06:40, 25 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please note that the page for the pub has been substantially improved as of 9.30am 25 February 2018. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cantabrigian7 (talk • contribs) 09:38, 25 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The Commercial, Herne Hill is an important historic landmark, dating back to the development of the local area around Herne Hill rail station in the late 19th Century. A page for this pub is therefore important in this wider context of documenting the history of the local area. Cantabrigian7 (talk) 12:39, 25 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

New independent references for the pub have been added, including the fact that it is locally-listed as being of architectural or historic interest by Lambeth Council. Cantabrigian7 (talk) 17:48, 25 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The Commercial continues to be a fine London example of an inter-war pub (often rebuilt by breweries to increase size and appeal more to families and particularly women), of which increasingly few examples remain. Cantabrigian7 (talk) 14:56, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. The article was created in its entirety by user cantabrigian7 who appears to develop classic pub articles. It is well referenced but I don't think it is notable, the references mainly providing information about the subject but not saying why it is notable. It isn't a listed building of national significance but has been locally listed. Szzuk (talk) 17:34, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. The pub is a) Locally-listed by Lambeth Council as a heritage asset of architectural or historic interest, b) Cited by CAMRA as one of only 133 pubs in Greater London with a pub interior of special historic interest, c) has a documented history dating back to 1876. Cantabrigian7 (talk) 17:56, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Article quality, sources, and local historic recognition suffice. --Doncram (talk) 23:23, 2 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Killiondude (talk) 08:05, 4 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per coverage and historic significance. FloridaArmy (talk) 15:03, 4 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Adequate notability. Andrew D. (talk) 22:59, 4 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Architecture-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 13:21, 7 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - sources are sufficient to determine notability. L293D (☎ • ✎) 01:40, 10 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.