Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Adventures of Chico and Guapo

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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 13:18, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Adventures of Chico and Guapo[edit]

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Show seems to fail WP:NTV. Show only lasted five episodes and garnered zero WP:RS attention. Deprodded without comment by editor whose talk page is full of warnings for disruptive editing, and who replaced the prod with a misused {{cleanup}} tag. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 00:48, 27 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment WP:NTV is an essay, not a policy/guideline. Secondly, the one reference that is in the article seems to be an offline source, so to say that this article "garnered zero WP:RS attention" may be jumping the gun. Other than the one reference in the article and mentions on websites like TV Guide, IMDB, Apple TV, etc, this doesn't seem to have been mentioned anywhere in any textual source that can be found just by performing a Google/Google News search. This could probably be merged somewhere (like with Orlando Jones), but keeping may still also be an option depending on what the one reference in the article entails (that is, if there's a way for anyone here to pull up what's in it?).—Mythdon (talkcontribs) 01:01, 27 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    IMDb, Apple TV, and TV Guide are just directory listings which do not garner WP:SIGCOV. The book cited in the article gives a two-line synopsis which can hardly be considered significant either. Newspapers.com returned only 23 results, all of which were either TV Guide listings or reprints of an MTV press release that only dedicates one sentence to the show at the very end. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 01:08, 27 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Can probably be merged/redirected then. I'd say either Orlando Jones or List of programs broadcast by MTV2 is a proper target. —Mythdon (talkcontribs) 01:14, 27 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep -- An additional RS is available here: [1]. matt91486 (talk) 18:02, 27 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    That's still only one RS though. The encyclopedia already in the article is not WP:SIGCOV. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 21:16, 27 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I disagree with your assessment of that, as it has commentary of several lines as well on the next page. I consider the encyclopedia entry entirely sufficient as a reliable source. matt91486 (talk) 22:26, 27 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: No significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources. In my opinion, a single in-depth source shouldn't be enough to prove notability. Throast (talk | contribs) 20:10, 28 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
    1. Camacho, Melissa (2022-03-01). "The Adventures of Chico and Guapo. TV review by Melissa Camacho, Common Sense Media". Common Sense Media. Archived from the original on 2022-05-01. Retrieved 2022-05-01.

      The review notes: "The Adventures of Chico and Guapo is gritty and includes sexual innuendo, simulated sex acts, and mild profanity (the stronger profanity is in Spanish). It also offers some positive cultural references that reflect the characters' Latino culture, such as Chico's relationship with his grandmother and the pride Guapo takes in announcing that he's from the Dominican Republic. Sadly, these positive details are too easily overshadowed by the series' coarse humor and extreme stereotyping, which ultimately makes those negative stereotypes easier to accept."

    2. Johanson, M. (November–December 2006). "The Adventures of Chico and Guapo: The Complete First Season". Video Librarian. Vol. 21, no. 6. p. 42. ISSN 0887-6851. EBSCOhost 23105789.

      The review notes: "Yup, it's another one of those cartoon shows that's strictly for grownups. You'll want to keep the kids away from the Beavis-and-Butthead-esque antics of sweet but dumb best friends Chico and Guapo, who "work" at a recording studio but mostly spend their time watching TV or attempting to kill themselves for the worker's comp they imagine they'll receive if they deliberately electrocute themselves. ... Frantic and frequently fierce under its laidback facade, this is some quality funny business for adventurous viewers. Recommended."

    3. Ball, Ryan (July 2006). "MTV2 Sicks the Dogs on Animation". Animation Magazine. Vol. 20, no. 7. ISSN 1041-617X. EBSCOhost 505161821.

      The article notes: "Actor Orlando Jones (TV's The Evidence), who previously Lent his voice to DreamWorks' NBC primetime toon, Father of the Pride, co-created Chico and Guapo. The Flash-animated series is an extension of a cartoon bit that appeared on the short-lived, late-night talker The Orlando Jones Show. Each episode starts and ends with Chico and Guapo channel surfing and critiquing TV shows a [a Beavis & Butt-Head. But where sluggish thought processes were the order of the day on that series, the witty repartee between Chico and Guapo is so rapid-fire that one really has to watch each episode more than once to catch all the jokes. The rest of the show focuses on the duo's misadventures in the music industry as they hold down jobs at indie Label Angelo Productions."

    4. Perlmutter, David (2018). The Encyclopedia of American Animated Television Shows. Lanham, Maryland: Rowman & Littlefield. p. 7. ISBN 978-1-5381-0374-6. Retrieved 2022-05-01 – via Google Books.

      The book provides three sentences of coverage about the subject. The book notes: "Synopsis: Puerto Rican immigrant Chico Bustello and Dominican immigrant Guapo Martinez are determined to start successful careers in the music business, despite their incompetent behavior as employees of Angelo Records. Commentary: Originally featured as a recurring segment of Jones's eponymous series on FX, this project blatantly courted the adult audience for television animation by featuring not only sexual innuendo but also simulated sex acts as part of its narratives. These attributes drowned out the skilled acting that the creators/producers brought to the project, and it soon lost favor with audiences for obvious reasons."

    5. Hunt, Dennis (2003-06-23). "Two comic actors take on late-night talk". USA Today. Archived from the original on 2022-05-01. Retrieved 2022-05-01.

      The article provides one sentence of coverage about the subject. The article notes: "What really sets Jones' show apart is his nightly animation sequence, the racy, edgy "Adventures of Chico and Guapo.""

    There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow The Adventures of Chico and Guapo to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".

    Cunard (talk) 08:21, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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