Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Thanksgiving 2011 (The Rainmakers album)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 01:33, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

Thanksgiving 2011 (The Rainmakers album)

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This is an article about a non-notable album. It was originally proposed for deletion with the rational: "Does not meet any of the notability criteria for albums, nor the general notability guidelines." The reason given for contesting the deletion was: "I'm not really sure why this article was suggested for deletion. It is one of eleven albums by The Rainmakers. It was released 2011 digitally on Apple/iTunes, Spotify, Amazon etc. <ref>https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/thanksgiving-2011/id488159285</ref>".

I would like to point out to Hemgard, who contested the deletion, that article subjects do not inherit notability, meaning that an album is not necessarily notable simply because it is released by a notable band. Sjrct (talk) 20:17, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (✉) 20:33, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

• I've never participated in this kind of discussion before and I'm not sure if I'm doing this right. Thanks to Sjrct for the links to guidelines. I've read them but I'm not really sure where the line between a notable and a non-notable album by a notable artist lies. "Thanksgiving 2011" is the second live album by The Rainmakers. It was released digitally in 2011 on Apple/iTunes, Spotify, Amazon and many other digital services. I don't know if the record itself has been on a chart or not, but I do know that several of the songs in it have been on albums that were on the Billboard Chart and sold gold record in Norway. Also the single "Let My People Go-Go" (this song is on this live album) reached Top 20 in the UK Singles Chart.. I understand it may not inherit that notability but the same could be said for a number of other live albums by other artists. I hope you'll keep the article about the album "Thanksgiving 2011". Hemgard (talk) 22:24, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

• If you want to argue that this article should be kept, then I would strongly recommend that you look for articles that support that this has received significant coverage from reliable and third-party resources. Notability is not inherited so a single/song can be notable while the album itself is not. Also, the fact that it is made available through the above mentioned mediums does not support notability on its own as there have been plenty of cases in which music that is not notable can be made available on those platforms. I would recommend looking for sources above everything else as (at least in my experience), that is why truly leads to good support for a keep vote. Hope this helps a little. Aoba47 (talk) 23:12, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

• Delete - per nominator's reasons. --Jennica✿ / ^talk 22:35, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 04:00, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Juliancolton | ^Talk 14:27, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

• Delete - per nominator's reasons. Aoba47 (talk) 23:13, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.