Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Teen Titans: The Judas Contract
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was merge to Teen Titans. Significant arguments to merge (non-admin closure) (talk→ Bwilkins / BMW ←track) 11:52, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Teen Titans: The Judas Contract[edit]
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No evidence that it ever was produced. As such, explicitly fails future films notability guidelines. No prejudice towards recreation when reliable sources indicate that production has begun. Girolamo Savonarola (talk) 15:59, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. -- fr33kman -s- 16:58, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: fails WP:NFF. Apparently never got out of pre-production. Its imdb page has been removed ([1], [2]). Imdb now has a page for a different, untitled Teen Titans project, so it looks like this one has been scrapped. Baileypalblue (talk) 17:09, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Changing my vote to Redirect to Teen Titans (TV series), which already mentions the subject; no objection to merging material so long as undue weight and other concerns are avoided. Still don't think it's notable enough for stand-alone article. Baileypalblue (talk) 19:19, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions. -- Hiding T 18:02, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. It may be a cancelled film, but it's a cancelled film that meets WP:N. Phil Sandifer (talk) 18:32, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect back to Teen Titans (TV series). A stillborn direct-to-video film whose cancellation wasn't significant enough to make it out of the fansite circles. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire - past ops) 21:31, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Are you using "fansites" as a synonym for "sites focusing on news and information about American superhero comics?" Phil Sandifer (talk) 22:24, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- No, I'm using it to mean self-published sites run by enthusiasts. I couldn't find any TZ reference, for example, just some TZ-hosted stuff. Admittedly, I didn't look very hard, but the only relevant facts available are "This was planned, then it was cancelled early in development." A Variety source wouldn't really change that. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire - past ops) 23:46, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Right. But as it stands, reliable sources exist. [3] is a significant one. [4] gets you several from another reliable source. Neither of those are fansites. Phil Sandifer (talk) 21:49, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, okay, but it's still a film cancelled early in development. There are two facts (it was planned, it was cancelled), they fit elsewhere nicely. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire - past ops) 21:57, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- It seems like there's also a lot on the comics plot arc it was an adaptation of. I'd suggest that the article could probably be widened/refocused to cover that as well. Phil Sandifer (talk) 22:10, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Then go ahead and do that, here or elsewhere. This isn't at any risk of being deleted. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire - past ops) 22:30, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- It seems like there's also a lot on the comics plot arc it was an adaptation of. I'd suggest that the article could probably be widened/refocused to cover that as well. Phil Sandifer (talk) 22:10, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, okay, but it's still a film cancelled early in development. There are two facts (it was planned, it was cancelled), they fit elsewhere nicely. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire - past ops) 21:57, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Right. But as it stands, reliable sources exist. [3] is a significant one. [4] gets you several from another reliable source. Neither of those are fansites. Phil Sandifer (talk) 21:49, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- No, I'm using it to mean self-published sites run by enthusiasts. I couldn't find any TZ reference, for example, just some TZ-hosted stuff. Admittedly, I didn't look very hard, but the only relevant facts available are "This was planned, then it was cancelled early in development." A Variety source wouldn't really change that. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire - past ops) 23:46, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Are you using "fansites" as a synonym for "sites focusing on news and information about American superhero comics?" Phil Sandifer (talk) 22:24, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge/Redir to Teen Titans, not to the series, as the article makes clear this is based on the comic directly, nad not as part of the cartoon series. ThuranX (talk) 23:55, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect back to Teen Titans. This movie was never supposed to be related to the TV series.-5- (talk) 03:42, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm fine with that. Baileypalblue (talk) 04:08, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment I'm troubled by the logic here. "The film was cancelled" is not a justification for deletion any more than it would be for The Day the Clown Cried. The article passes WP:N. Nobody seems to dispute this fact. It is a notable unreleased film. That is not a contradiction in terms. Phil Sandifer (talk) 21:49, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Nor does anyone but the OP want this deleted, near as I can tell. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire - past ops) 21:57, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- 'Keep or merge. - Peregrine Fisher (talk) (contribs) 06:18, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Redir to Teen Titans; fails WP:N. --Dragonfiend (talk) 05:50, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.