Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Team touchdown

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was - Speedy Deleted and salted (CSD#A7). Wikipedia is not for promoting you and your mates sports team. - Peripitus (Talk) 10:43, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Team touchdown

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No indication of notability; no reliable sources of information found. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 09:42, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

• Delete: Team touchdown has twice been speedied under A7, but was recreated with the claim that the team had been covered in the national press for competing at a national level. Taking this as a claim of importance, I removed the speedy tag, asked the creator to cite this claim, and said I would prod if no evidence was forthcoming. Meanwhile I looked for sources to establish notability myself: it's not an easy term to Google, but I could find none. (Searching the archive of the newspaper that purportedly covered the team brought no hits.) I added a prod tag, which was removed by an editor who had also been making dubious edits to the article. The page may in fact be suitable for speedy deletion, but I've got too embroiled in this one to be sure whether I'm making a good call. Gonzonoir (talk) 09:45, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

• Delete - the article appears to be a hoax; at best it seems thoroughly non-notable. Sssoul (talk) 09:46, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. —-- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 10:01, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. —-- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 10:01, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. —-- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 10:01, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
• Comment I do not feel that this would be eligible under Speedy Deletion Criteria A7, as they assert notability. The Speedy Deletion Criteria do not require proof of notability, merely the claim. This is also a contested PROD, as mentioned by Gonzonoir above. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 10:06, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
• Don't delete The article's creator was wrong about the press thing and it has been edited. The team exist and u can find a draw proving so at the refernces in the page. Also the team does exist and could quite possible win the D1 Grand Final which would be a huge achievement and worthy of notability. The creator is noth the only person who has edited this valuable and educational resource. Don't tear it down. Special Operations (talk) 10:10, 18 November 2009 (UTC)— Special Operations (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
• Don't delete Seeing as how the Howzat is running the event the team in question is participating in the Howzat site is a completely viable and usefel reference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Special Operations (talk • contribs) 10:10, 18 November 2009 (UTC)— Special Operations (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
  • Note: the Don't delete has been struck, as each editor can only make a recommendation once -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 10:15, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
  • Special Operations: No one is saying that the team does not exist. The issue isn't its existance, but its notability and the verifiability of the information. May I suggest that you read Wikipedia:Notability, Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) and Wikipedia:Verifiability, as well as Wikipedia:Reliable sources. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 10:19, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
• Delete and salt. Actually, I think WP:CSD#A7 "no credible claim of significance or importance" covers it exactly: the actual article makes no claim - it's just an under-14 indoor soccer team "made up of 8 players from Merewether High School". The only reference is the website of a leisure centre, and even there I don't find any mention. However, as it's been PRODded and dePRODded we'd better go through with this. JohnCD (talk) 10:16, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
  • Comment I was going on this version which claims "This team are competitive in national level as seen in The Daily Telegraph, 25/8/09". As it stands, I think this may be eligible for an A7 Speedy. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 10:22, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
• Don't Delete "Team Touchdown" is worthy of notability because of their potential and the article would be informative to anyone in the comp, students, teachers. At the most extreme it deserves a cleanup not a complete deletion not a revert either as many credible facts have been implemented into between various "drafts" 10:19, 18 November 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Special Operations (talk • contribs)
  • Note: the Don't delete has been struck, as each editor can only make a recommendation once -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 10:24, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
  • "Potential" notability is not sufficient! Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 10:28, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
• Comment - correction to my comment above - in the leisure centre website referenced, if you look under Indoor sports/Draws/soccer/Friday night junior, you do indeed find this team's name listed, along with more than 30 others. Sorry, boys, this is not the "significant coverage in multiple reliable sources" required for notability. Yes, it proves your team exists, yes, there are "credible facts" we don't doubt that, but that's not enough for a Wikipedia article. JohnCD (talk) 10:31, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

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