Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tchoroev Tyntchtykbek

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The result was redirect to Tyntchtykbek Tchoroev. there's no consensus to delete this Scott Mac (Doc) 20:42, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tchoroev Tyntchtykbek[edit]

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL) duplication of article, COI vanity, mild if any notability Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 15:40, 5 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. As indicated, this is a duplicate of Tyntchtykbek Tchoroev (note the reversal of names). A redirect would suffice, if the subject is known with his name going both ways, or if there's some cultural reason to invert names - but, if there isn't a good reason to redirect, I'd say delete. But the issues of COI and mild notability apply to both this article and the original - and might indicate that both should be deleted. UltraExactZZ ^Said~ Did 16:56, 5 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Just as a formality I am bundling Tyntchtykbek Tchoroev with this AfD due to the fact that both articles are on the same person:

Tyntchtykbek Tchoroev (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

If consensus is to keep, the content should be merged into Tyntchtykbek Tchoroev, as the article indicates that Tchoroev is the surname and Tyntchtykbek is the given name. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 22:14, 5 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. —David Eppstein (talk) 07:09, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Best GS cite I can find is 4. ~~Looks like a delete at present.~~ Xxanthippe (talk) 22:10, 6 February 2010 (UTC).[reply]
Strong keep but merge two name variations. I don't know which name order is canonical, but keep one and let the other redirect there. In any case, this is an overwhelming keep on content, under WP:PROF, WP:AUTH, politician, and generally a slam dunk as WP:GNG. LotLE×talk 19:16, 7 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Tim Song (talk) 03:24, 12 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Kyrgyzstan-related deletion discussions. -- Pcap ping 01:07, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. -- Pcap ping 01:07, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Confused. Definitely needs inline refs (there are general refs at the end), but he seems one of the authors of their constitution (not sure what the deal is with the alternate draft), and apparently wrote most of their history textbooks. Seems notable for his political activities as well. Has a page on the Russian Wikipedia as well. As for the duplication, redirect Tchoroev Tyntchtykbek to Tyntchtykbek Tchoroev, as the latter appears to be the canonical name. This an auto-biography unfortunately, by User:Tynchtyk Chorotegin. (Chorotegin is some sort of nickame of his, see his byline in the UNESCO book for instance)Pcap ping 01:12, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note, Tyntchtykbek Tchoroev would be his Russified name, 'Tyntchtykbek Chorotegin uulu' would be his full Kyrgyz name (son of or tribe of), Tynchtyk would be his nickname. I lived there, OR on my part, just clarifying. My concerns are just the duplication of articles and the blatant ongoing COI. --Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 08:28, 14 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep " Director of Kyrgyz Service of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty is sufficiently notable--equivalent to the editor of a major political publication. He may even be notable also under WP:PROF as having written many widely used textbooks. DGG ( talk ) 02:48, 14 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have secondary sources to back up the assertion that being Director of the Kyrgyz Service means being editor of a major pub? I highly doubt that the job is full-time. Also, there are no textbooks that I can see. It just seems so implausible; how many universities even teach a class in Kyrgyz Studies or Kyrgyz History? Abductive (reasoning) 19:37, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, unless "widely-used textbooks" assertion is demonstrated. Abductive (reasoning) 19:37, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.