Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tallia Storm (3rd nomination)

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The result was delete. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:33, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Tallia Storm[edit]

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Was previously deleted for lack of notability Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tallia Storm (2nd nomination) last year was recreated from a redirect on the same page, but notability doesn't appear to be any more significant. Have tried Speedy as I believed the article was a recreation, but admin assures it is not. I'm also still concerned that it's been created at least in part by a copy paste without edit history of the original article as well. Still fails WP:NMUSIC and fails WP:CELEBRITY.Stuart.Jamieson (talk) 19:51, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I removed the garbage sources out of habit and removed the content it was attempting to source which leaves us with an article that's pretty much the same as the last two afds. CUPIDICAE💕 19:53, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians, Women, and United Kingdom. Shellwood (talk) 20:11, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Has failed to do anything notable since appearing on stage at an EJ concert in scotland a few years ago, resulting in this article and some A&R work by a SPA editor. Fails GNG and the flimsy PR sources currently in the article really dont cut the mustard. -Roxy the grumpy dog. wooF 21:43, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment/question Would this piece in The Mirror be relevant, or do we consider tabloid coverage to be not adding to notability? Genuine question, not my usual type of article to comment on. https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/meet-tallia-storm-celebs-dating-11992628 CT55555 (talk) 22:38, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I would say not really, it doesn't say anything beyond the few better sources that exist, it doesn't enhance her notability in any way. Stuart.Jamieson (talk) 21:36, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Mild Keep Could use better sourcing, I find reviews of her albums in the Guardian and Teen Vogue, starting on page 3 of a GSearch. Diving in to page 17 of the GSearch, there's a write up of her relationships in Huff Post UK. Most of what turns up are unreliable tabloids that we can't accept for notability purposes (what she's wearing, how revealing her clothing is), but there seems to be just enough otherwise. Oaktree b (talk) 20:27, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I can't get reviews of either of her albums on a Google search with site: Theguardian.com or site:teenvogue.com. There is a review of her novel on the guardian, but it's user submitted.

The Problem with other sources is that her mother runs a PR company and leverages that position to get write ups (particularly in Huff Post UK) but they're generally of incidental stuff. Who she's dated isn't acceptable for notability purposes. Even the fact she has two albums (even if an actual review can be found) still falls well below our notability requirements for a musician, the world is full of musical artists who (like her) have never charted but have had a bit of incidental coverage in a newspaper article somewhere. They don't have articles, and on that basis neither should she. Stuart.Jamieson (talk) 21:35, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, DMySon (talk) 06:13, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Yes, there are tabloid stories about her relationships and brief mentions elsewhere but I'm really not seeing significant coverage in multiple reliable sources. AusLondonder (talk) 14:02, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.