Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Syrian Kurdistan (second nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Delete and Redirect. I considered relisting this, but it's had 14 days already and I think on strength of argument (particularly regarding the page's status as a POV fork) there is a consensus to redirect it. I've taken "redirect" to mean in this context "delete and redirect", given that there's no point in just replacing a contentous POV fork with a soft redirect that can be undone with a couple of mouse clicks. kingboyk 13:53, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Syrian Kurdistan

Previously speedily redirected to Kurds in Syria. The Kurds in Syria article exists. There is no need to rename this article. It has to be Speedy deleted, as per talk --MysticRum 17:58, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

• Keep [1] or move it to Western Kurdistan. [2]

Diyako Talk + 18:54, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

• Redirect to Kurds in Syria as before. This looks too much like a POV fork to me. Just zis Guy you know? 14:23, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
• Redirect per JzG. --Terence Ong 16:22, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

• Comment: Unlike other parts of Kurdistan Syria's Kurdistan is a small region so the region maybe is unknown for some people. But in fact the article is on the part of Kurdistan which is within borders of the Arabic country of Syria. The article is different from the article 'Kurds in Syria' as the second one explains the Kurds and their situation in Syria who a large number of them even do not live in this region. The article still is a stub and can explain more sides of the history of the region which by itself has its own long story. I see no POV fork here. Thanks. Diyako Talk + 16:39, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

• Redirect or merge. There's no doubt that Kurdistan (q.v.) overlaps parts of Iran, Iraq, Turkey, and Syria. But there's no justification not to include this material at Kurdistan or Kurds in Syria, since it is not yet substantial. Slowmover 17:29, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
• Merge/Redirect. As it is now most of the article overlaps with Kurds in Syria. In the future someone may create valid and full featured article but currently it is not worth of existence. Pavel Vozenilek 21:51, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
• Keep This is a term that is used for the region [3]. Article should be expanded, not deleted without the chance. --Moby 11:11, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment. I don't think this answers the question of why it should be separate from Kurds in Syria. Nobody is saying the term isn't used. Slowmover 17:14, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. A geographical name is different than an ethnic name. Heja Helweda 01:01, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
  • That's precisely the point. It's not a name defined by geography; it's defined by ethnicity. Slowmover 03:23, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
• Redirect to Kurds in Syria --ManiF 01:22, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
• Merge/Redirect for now. Mukadderat 18:35, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
• Keep this is information of the region in Syria inhabited by Kurds, whereas Kurds in Syria is about the general position of that ethnic group throughout the country; two separate topics, clearly. I am also getting tired of the repeated AfDs & CfDs of Kurdish related material it's censorship. If you don't like Kurds, or are fearful of their national aspirations, take your biases to your ballot boxes, don't try to censor WP. Carlossuarez46 21:39, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment. It is to be expected that for many politically divisive topics (and Kurds are just one of them) there will be a large number of AfDs because there are a large number of people who want to use WP to promote their views on these topics and turn the encyclopedia into a soapbox.Slowmover 16:35, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
• Redirect and perhaps delete. We have all sorts of ethnic minorities living in the US and none get an article explaining their regional politics. --Cool Cat^Talk|@ 21:52, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. The problem with merging this page to Kurds in Syria is that Syrian Kurdistan is not only inhabited by Kurds, but also other minorities. Also the page would only be nationalistic, if it was called Rojava. --Ahmetyal (talk) 22:05, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.