Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Susan Ford

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The result was keep. - Mailer Diablo 08:32, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Susan Ford[edit]

Daughter of President Gerald Ford. This article was tagged for speedy deletion under A7 (no notability asserted) which seems ill-advised since we do have various entries on Presidential offspring. I don't know if Susan Ford should gain entry into this élite group, so I'm putting this up for AfD instead. This is a procedural nomination, so I abstain for now. ~ trialsanderrors 02:22, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy redirect to Gerald Ford. T REX_speak 02:54, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Why speedy? ~ trialsanderrors 03:10, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  - At the time the article appeared to be non notable by herself, but now that new evidence of notability has been brought in I think it would be best to Keep this article. T REX_speak 19:06, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and redirect to Gerald Ford (or Betty Ford). -- Beardo 04:30, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, runs Betty Ford Center, former photojournalist, published author (two "First Daughter" mysteries), co-founder of National Breast Cancer Awareness Month. I think all White House kids (as opposed to, perhaps, adult kids of Presidents) are covered by the blanket "involvement in newsworthy events" clause. Or put it this way, they would have to try to be un-notable. The media attention is often intense (and this dates back to Lincoln). --Dhartung | Talk 05:12, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I get 2104 news hits on Newsbank for "Susan Ford". They might not all be about her, but the first couple of pages surely are. ~ trialsanderrors 06:03, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, seems pretty notable on her own, not only through her father. JIP | Talk 07:05, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, per Dhartung. --Stubbleboy 12:04, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: while I'm strongly against the "notability by proxy" arguments (I have nominated for AfD (with varying success) persons like Newton Earp, some children of Lincoln, and some brothers of Nixon), in this case she matches WP:BIO already for her literary work (see the magazine reviews as compiled on Amazon[1]). Combined with her other achievements and her ancestry (which, while in itself not sufficient, does give some extra notability), and this is a clear keep. Fram 14:14, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Dhartung. DCEdwards1966 16:21, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I agree with Fram that notability by association in and of itself is insufficient; however, in this case, the subject of the article meets the criteria of WP:BIO on her own merits. Agent 86 22:52, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep per WP:SNOW, this subject is well above our notability standards. RFerreira 23:00, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Happy to withdraw my nomination if that speeds up the process. ~ trialsanderrors 05:04, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.