Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sugichan

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-admin closure) DavidLeighEllis (talk) 02:38, 5 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sugichan[edit]

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Confusing Article, 2 Infoboxes, Very Poor English, Needs expert to rewrite the article to understand. Ninney (talk) 17:57, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Article already exists on the Japanese wikipedia as ja:スギちゃん. Article as is is not currently easily understandable. -- Kethrus |talk to me 18:30, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment-Looking over other articles by the creator seem to have this problem as well. Not sure if this should be deleted or not though. Though it does seem confusing-says he is a comedian then goes off to him being a wrestler. Wgolf (talk) 19:12, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - The subject itself is clearly notable in my opinion. I could easily gather quite a number of independent RS since, for a while there, he was one of the most popular comedians on TV in Japan. But the article is mostly a machine translation of the JA wiki article and, because Sugichan is famous enough that his JA article is quite long, very difficult to clean up. I would be inclined less towards deletion than turning it into a stub and starting from there. Michitaro (talk) 02:08, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - completely ignoring the contents of the article, he is actually a very notable comedian, as said by Michitaro. As far as wrestling goes, a quick look at the Japanese biography says he enjoys watching pro wrestling, and early in his comedy career he wore a wrestler's mask as one of his characters. I will have a crack at cleaning it up and report back here when I'm done. AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 02:27, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have now reduced it down to a basic biography that describes why he is notable. I have not sourced the list of commercials yet, but the fact he won "word of the year" and that big companies like Nintento are paying him to advertise their products is a sure sign of his notability. I'm inviting Ninney, Kethrus, Wgolf and Michitaro to take a second look. AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 05:46, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

On a separate point, I think the article should be moved to Sugi-chan, as "chan" is a suffix that is a cute/friendly version of the more familiar suffix "san". AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 05:50, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I must note I didn't doubt the notability of the subject. I'll take a look at the article when I get the chance. -- Kethrus |talk to me 10:23, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - The article is indeed improved, readable, proper layout with clear strucutre. Okay! regarding moving the article to Sugi-chan. Just one doubt, the surname in the lede is 'Sugimura' & in the infobox is 'Sugiyama'. Also, would appreciate if Award section is added. @AtHomeIn神戸: Thanks for all the efforts in saving the article. Thanks all for participation. - Ninney (talk) 15:47, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ninney, thank you for the compliment. Also, thank you for pointing out the mistake. Sugiyama is the correct name. I work with someone named Sugimura who is also nicknamed Sugichan... AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 01:16, 31 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. The article includes enough sourcing and third-party coverage to establish basic notability. No valid argument for deletion was actually presented by the original nominator. --DAJF (talk) 00:47, 1 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

In that case, [check this link] when the article was marked for deletion. - Ninney (talk) 01:01, 1 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - As I said above, there was no question that the subject passed WP:GNG, the only issue was whether the initial state of the article was so bad that it needed some WP:TNT. I leaned against that, and Athomeinkobe eventually showed that it could be salvaged. Michitaro (talk) 03:35, 1 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. Michitaro (talk) 05:49, 2 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.