Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Straits Estate

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was No consensus. While the last three keep !votes certainly have more weight than the first four deletes, the last comment also makes a valid point. Deathphoenix ʕ 03:35, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Straits Estate

Non notable housing estate Pally01 16:32, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

• Delete. Fails WP:NOT an indiscriminate collection of information. Fiddle Faddle 16:41, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Unsourced and no apparent notability. PJM 16:53, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom Nigel ^(Talk) 12:51, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. According to my street atlas of the West Midlands it's pretty large and effectively forms a separate district in its own right. -- Necrothesp 01:48, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. I would have to think that a significant housing estate would more easily meet all of the requirements for Wikipedia content than, say, an individual episode of a cable sitcom -- but that's just me. Whether or not the article is sourced at this stage, the details surrounding the development history of a housing estate are certainly verifiable. --Dystopos 05:06, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

• Comment: You and I are verifiable, Dystopos. Does that mean that we are suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia just because we have an entry in the phone book, or are on a register of electors? If so then be prepared for a huge influx of articles about verifiable subjects that are not worth inclusion in an enclyclopaedia. You or I may even be notable in a very minor manner. I am an expert in my worklife in a minor field, but I am assuredly not notable for an encyclopaedia, and I would support the deletion of any such article about someone like me. With regard to the fact that this estate takes up a reasonable section of a streetmap, Necrothesp, it may well. But it is not itself a district, it is simply an estate. It will be the district that has notability with the estate forming a minor part of the article on the district. Fiddle Faddle 06:13, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

• Comment. This is not strictly true. Larger estates do sometimes form districts in their own right. -- Necrothesp 11:35, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

• Keep: I wish people would google just for a few minutes before tagging an article as unsourced. That should certainly be a WP policy before putting up an article for AfD because of WP:Notability or WP:OR or a lack of sources. I put 2 minor references in the article, and one that by itself proves sufficient notability as well as constitues a proper source for the content of the article, on the web site of The Sedgley Local History Society. — SomeHuman 3 Oct2006 20:43 (UTC)
  • Comment Straits Estate is an estate of homes. Looking at the links in the article, this is abouty Straits HOUSE (now the pub?), this is probably about this estate, but is not exactly in a mainstream journal, and is about the local pub. None of these seem to be truly on the topic of Straits Estate except insofar as the article says The modern housing development was constructed around a large 18th century residence called Straits House. Now the HOUSE may be notable because of the succession of uncited notable people who lived there, but the Estate certainly is not Fiddle Faddle 22:45, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.