Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Steve Tello (2nd nomination)

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The result was no consensus. no consensus on whether he is notable after three weeks JForget 00:27, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Steve Tello[edit]

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BLP with no sources, and minor notability. Already went through AfD in 2007 which resulted in a delete, and now returns with much the same problems. Delete as fails WP:BIO. Muhandes (talk) 10:18, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 20:16, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Weak keep He has some mentions in news articles, mostly quotes from him rather than articles about him, which are not enough to satisfy notability concerns. But he did win the Sprague Award which is a prestigious national award and would seem to qualify him under WP:BIO. The article claims he won it for his precedent-setting achievement in getting cameras into the Florida courts; however, I searched hard and I can find no confirmation that he had a role in that decision - not even at the Wikipedia article for the attorney who supposedly helped him do it. (In fact the attorney's article didn't mention that precedent at all; I just now added the information to that article.) It is true that "Florida led the way in 1976" in allowing TV coverage of trials [1], and information in the article suggests that he was a 26-year-old news operations manager in Florida at the time, but his role in the precedent is not documented anywhere that I can find. If documented that would make him clearly notable. So I am kind of torn on this one. --MelanieN (talk) 18:31, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JForget 00:14, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I just do not see how Mr. Tello is notable. He may be well known within industry circles but how has he innovated? What is the significance of his achievements and appointments? Also, I am concerned that User:Wgoldstein is a WP:SPA to big-up the subject of this article. Eddie.willers (talk) 14:30, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Sufficient awards to constitute notability. Carrite (talk) 18:33, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, T. Canens (talk) 01:55, 26 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. He's been recognized in his profession. patsw (talk) 02:58, 26 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Notability within your own profession is not enough to satisfy GNG. In fact, industry specific awards are far from despositive about these sorts of cases. Being notable within one's field is not an outside indication of widespread notability, and fails general criteria. Shadowjams (talk) 06:38, 26 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Commment Actually, recognition in ones profession is explicitly one of the threshold criteria for inclusion of a biographical article. See WP:BIO. This notion of outside indication is not supported by WP:GNG. patsw (talk) 16:48, 26 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

~~Keep~~Comment - Here's your notability hook: "While working for Post-Newsweek station WPLG-TV , Tello , with lawyer Talbot "Sandy" D'Alemberte (former American Bar President and Florida State University President ) was successful in the precedent setting movement to place cameras in the courtrooms in the State of Florida. His efforts in Florida grew to many states across the country allowing camera coverage in their courts over subsequent years." Carrite (talk) 14:48, 26 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I would certainly buy that claim as notable, as I said above, if it were verified. I looked but was unable to find any verification; if you can find some, please cite it. --MelanieN (talk) 03:05, 27 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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