Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Steve Sosna (2nd nomination)
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The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 12:02, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
Steve Sosna[edit]
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No indication that Sosna has become any more notable since the last AFD in 2017. Article creator was able to find more sources than I was, but it's still nearly all primary coverage, plus brief announcements and passing mentions. Since then, he's moved to a new station, and been on two teams that won a Technology Emmy and a regional Emmy respectively.
It's been written once again by user Jdlovitz, a SPA whose edits are exclusively about Jonathan Lovitz and his husband Steve Sosna. Right after I warned jdlovitz about conflict of interest, an anon editor (whose edits since February 2023 have also been SPA about these two people) began editing the article. Neither account has responded yet to my notice at their talk pages about logged-out editing. Wikishovel (talk) 10:02, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, News media, Maryland, New York, and Pennsylvania. Wikishovel (talk) 10:02, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
- Comment Below is a source assessment table. Beyond the promotional aspects of the article, this demonstrates that based on sources we have the subject does not meet WP:BASIC. Wikishovel (talk) 10:04, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
Source assessment table: prepared by User:Wikishovel
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Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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CBS Baltimore, "Steve Sosna - CBS Baltimore"[1] | ? | profile page from his employer, full of personal detail so probably self-written | ✘ No | |
Philadelphia Gay News "Steve Sosna, braving the most dangerous storms" [2] | ? | ? | A friendly getting-to-know-you interview, and interviews are primary sources | ✘ No |
Kean University "Kean Earth Science Graduate Takes Meteorology World by Storm" [3] | ? | Promotional alumnus profile by his university | ✘ No | |
NBC New York "Steve Sosna" | a tag cloud returning a single weather report co-written by Sosna in 2011 | ✘ No | ||
MSNBC "Irma Regains Strength as Category 4, Eyewall Reformed" [4] | a weather report by Sosna | ✘ No | ||
NBC10 Philadelphia "Steve Sosna, Dray Clark Join NBC10 Team"[5] | short promo announcement from his employer that he and another person are joining the company | ✘ No | ||
Adweek "Philadelphia Meteorologist Steve Sosna Moving to Baltimore" [6] | ? | short announcement of a job move sourced only by Sosna's Facebook. About half of it is quotes from his FB post, not WP:SIGCOV, and not really secondary | ✘ No | |
American Meteorological Society "List of AMS Certified Broadcast Meteorologists (CBM)" [7] | His name is included on a list of 958 people who achieved a certification. | ✘ No | ||
NBC Los Angeles "NBC and Telemundo Owned Stations Win Technology Emmy for StormRanger Radar Trucks" [8] | Article by his employer about their team winning an Emmy for use of new technology in reporting, but Sosna's name is not mentioned. | ✘ No | ||
NewscastStudio "NBC wins tech Emmy for StormRanger mobile radar fleet"[9] | ? | ? | Trade article about NBC winning the tech Emmy, and again Sosna isn't mentioned. | ✘ No |
NATAS Mid-Atlantic Chapter, "2022 Emmy Recipients". [10] | Lists his name in the team of 12 that won a regional Emmy | ✘ No | ||
New York Times "Jonathan Lovitz, Steve Sosna" [11] | Paid-inclusion wedding notice in the NYT's local news, with a mention that Sosna is "the meteorologist for weekend evenings at WCAU, an NBC affiliate". Primary, and not SIGCOV. | ✘ No | ||
NBC News ""A National Coming Out Day message to LGBTQ youth from a newly married gay man"[12] | ? | A short "Community Voices" piece by Sosna on National Coming Out Day, about his marriage. Primary source, hosted by his employer. | ✘ No | |
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}. |
- Delete It's a no-go, based on the chart above. Zero sources we can use. None found either that I can use. Oaktree b (talk) 12:13, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
- When you use a weather report for sourcing, well, just don't. Oaktree b (talk) 12:14, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
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