Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Steve Fryar

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The result was speedy keep. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 13:31, 3 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Steve Fryar[edit]

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Fails WP:BASIC and WP:ANYBIO. Unable to locate secondary sources to support notability. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:57, 27 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Withdrawn by nominator Magnolia677 (talk) 00:19, 29 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. RonSigPi (talk) 00:13, 29 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keep passes WP:NRODEO by competing in the National Finals Rodeo. Therefore we presume the sources exist. Since his top competition days were over 25 years ago, those sources are going to be hard to find online. Most of those secondary sources would be newspaper articles on rodeos he competed in. Those likely are smaller cities and who even knows how many of those papers are still in business - and those that are how many can be reasonable accessed? Also, for those that don't know rodeo, qualifying for the NFR requires finishing the year in the top-15 in earnings. To finish that high, one almost has to win multiple decent sized or larger rodeos. Such results would have certainly been covered providing the presumed sources. If this were someone competing now I could see people wanting to see more sources since this is only a presumption, but due to the time frame I say we let the presumption carry its weight and keep. RonSigPi (talk) 23:59, 27 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Two more things that support keep to me. Here is an entry on him in a college rodeo book - [1]. I will admit its just a passing mention, but his inclusion alone in the actual text (as opposed to just a list as champion) in a book like this would show support for sources existing. Second, his death was announced on the pro rodeo circuit homepage and the Wrangler network homepage (current sponsor of the NFR) - see [2] & [3]. While neither qualify as independent, one has to have some standing to have their passing mentioned on those pages. Again, in view of how long ago the subject's prime was, I think that with the presumption being met this all leads to keep. RonSigPi (talk) 00:08, 28 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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